Do you think Bale and Ronaldo will out shine Messi and Neymar?

I'd definitely take Messi and Neymar over Ronaldo and Bale.

I don't think Bale will do as well he did at Spurs. He'll probably score around 9-10 goals.

I can see Neymar scoring around 20 by the end of the season.

urbaNRoots wrote:Depends how Real Madrid will lineup... I'd like to see:

GK
Defence
Khedira
Modric Isco
di Maria Ronaldo Bale

This team would beast in all levels. I'm not sure Ronaldo would like to play like this but with Bale moving centrally during the game, it becomes a 4222 anyway, in which formation Ronaldo wouldn't have a problem to play, I believe.

Ronaldo will flop hard at CF.He is not good in tight space not that great dribbler either.He will be surrounded by multiple defender.And finally his linkup play is not that good.Only positive he is beast in the air.if other team park the bus what Ronaldo gonna do? Does he even play one-two with his team mate?

in difficult games

Carlo should use a STRICT counter attack tactic

Bale will Blow Shite up

Benzema will most likely start ahead of Di Maria.

In terms of sitting back and counter-attacking, I don't think that will happen. We're just not a side that sits back. Ancelotti wants to play possession.

I think Bale has more to prove given his price tag.

Yohan Modric wrote:Benzema will most likely start ahead of Di Maria.

In terms of sitting back and counter-attacking, I don't think that will happen. We're just not a side that sits back. Ancelotti wants to play possession.

Then whats the point of buying Bale? Bale clearly is not for possession based game.Or most expensive player ever will warm the bench.Does not make sense.

Perez is the one who got him. He wanted the latest hyped player even though we didn't need him. Apparently another reason is because he missed out on Neymar and Barca got him.

Ancelotti didn't want Bale, he was happy with the squad.

Anyway it's possible to play possession:

--------------DM
---------Modric---Isco
-----Bale------------Ronaldo
------------Benzema

Yohan Modric wrote:Benzema will most likely start ahead of Di Maria.

In terms of sitting back and counter-attacking, I don't think that will happen. We're just not a side that sits back. Ancelotti wants to play possession.

if you play possession then you would shut down 50% of Bale

Yohan Modric wrote:Perez is the one who got him. He wanted the latest hyped player even though we didn't need him. Apparently another reason is because he missed out on Neymar and Barca got him.

Ancelotti didn't want Bale, he was happy with the squad.

Anyway it's possible to play possession:

--------------DM
---------Modric---Isco
-----Bale------------Ronaldo
------------Benzema

Bale never played in RW/RAM.If Madrid playing possession game how he is going to work i don't know.He is not great at assisting either.Not to mention his massive price tag will always be huge burden imo.

Yeh he's not a RW, but I guess that's the only place he can play.

He can't play in the LW area because Ronaldo is there and AM there's Isco.

Bale will do fine. If he could run past anybody in EPL then he will do that again in La Liga. Especially on the counter.

According to heatmaps, Bale spent over 25% of his time playing RW at Spurs last year... he played all over the pitch actually. 40% in the middle and 35% at LW.

sportsczy wrote:According to heatmaps, Bale spent over 25% of his time playing RW at Spurs last year... he played all over the pitch actually.  40% in the middle and 35% at LW.

How he did in 25% time at RW? .How many goals he scored from that position?

Bale had a free role though. I think there's a difference between purely playing on one flank and being on the flank due to having a free role.

Bale's best position would something like:

-----Di Maria----------Ronaldo
---------------Bale
--------------Benzema


However that won't happen.

Maybe Isco in Di Maria's place?

Ronaldo apparently doesn't like playing as the lone striker. He does kinda play centrally, however he's playing off another striker.

Beautiful football did you watch any spurs game? Bale started off as a rw in a few games and that is where he scored most of his long range goals by cutting in.

Messi would outshine all 3 of them combined. Boring.

I agree on the cf thing. If ancelotti wants Madrid to play patient football Ronaldo will suffer. Hell even Pellegrini had to curtail to Ronaldo and play lightning counters, thats when he can work as a cf. But back then teams had a go at Madrid. If teams park the bus he could be very ineffective

zigra wrote:Messi would outshine all 3 of them combined. Boring.

Not sure about the three of them combined but Messi will still be better tll of them tbh

It's amazing how some of you are under rating Bale. Stop pretending he's some scrub because of his exhorbitant price tag. He's a World Class player.

Anyway one thing is certain, Madrid will have the deadliest attack in transition in years.

Bale is nowhere near the finish product too. His development has been on an upward curve every single year, who knows what his ceiling is and now he has Ronaldo to take the pressure off him.

Despite the Ozil sale Madrid have actually improved this summer, more so than Barca. Isco can actually last the full 90 and can defend unlike Ozil despite the latter being the superior player. At the end of the day it's all about balance.

Illaramendi, Carvajal, Bale, Isco and Casmeiro are all excellent signings for the present and future as well as already being in  the upper echelon of their respective positions. They also put a lot of faith in their cantera which Madridstras and football purists have been begging them to do, who knows maybe Jese or Morata could be the next Raul/Guti.

lets be honest Gil

to get the best of Bale you need a Counter formation,
if you play possession footie, you are limiting his powers

Carlo does counter. But he doesn't force the counter if it's not there... the idea is to go if there's an opportunity and build up if there's no advantage.

We've played a lot of counter attacks this year.

jibers wrote:Beautiful football did you watch any spurs game? Bale started off as a rw in a few games and that is where he scored most of his long range goals by cutting in.

Yes i did.I Doubt he will do same in Madrid.In spurs he had license to shot from everywhere. In Madrid Ronaldo is the man.You just cannot have two player shooting from everywhere.it does not work like that.From what i have seen bale is not really a good finisher, who can cut inside and finish his chance like Messi did in few years back. .Anyway we will see.