whats wrong with Ancelotti's Madrid?

by Lupi Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:17 am

why are they suffering ?

No hate comment please

by Ganso Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:27 am

Out of form CF,headless chickens on the wings,inconsistent/misused playmaker(or maybe no playmaker at all),defensively unstable pivot,defenders who are crap at individual defending and the list goes on

by Lex Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:30 am

They sold a Ferrari and bought a Fiat

by moutinho98 Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:41 am

they dont have the mou factor.

by Forza Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:11 am

Too much pressure on Carlo to play the "star" players. It's one thing to buy an expensive player, and it's another thing to buy an expensive player that you need. The number of attacking players on the field would make you think that this is a 15 yr old's FIFA manager mode game in the 5th season.

Give Coentrao to some other team that can use him as a left winger instead of as a full-back. He doesn't have good enough defensive capabilities to be in a back 4.

The other 3, Arbeloa, Pepe and Ramos aren't really up to scratch.

One of the biggest problems is that they have no proper DM.

Khedira is being used as a defensive midfielder - which he is not IMO. He is not tenacious enough in the tackle and I think his distribution skills are not as good as they used to be. I think he might improve his play if he was used as a CM with less defensive responsibilities.

I always said that spending 32 mil on Illara was insane and whilst I don't doubt that Illara is talented, he cannot be expected to play pivot next to Khedira. He really needs a proper hard man playing next to him to relieve the pressure. When he gets put under pressure, he just gives the ball away.

Di Maria is one of the poorest decision-makers I have ever seen play. He makes good runs and gets into dangerous positions only to cock it up time and time again.

by hrealmadrid Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:13 am

Personally I think Ancelotti is completely clueless. He has had about 10 preseason games and now 7 liga games and still there seems to be little to no strategy. Nobody seems to have a fixed role, everybody is confused, there is no leadership. I think we're officially in crisis, regardless of the results. This is a poor poor team and it's all Ancelotti's fault.

by McAgger Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:17 am

Ancelotti hasn't covered himself in any sort of glory. He deserves a chunk of the blame as well.

by RED Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:25 am

RM fans, we know them feels, bruhs. Sad

Stay strong.

by Dnmac4 Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:22 am

Maybe Atletico is a really good team and Simeone is a really good coach? Could that be the reason RM lost???

I mean I know every good coach is supposed to come right into La Liga and dominate the pathetic league from day one but maybe Ancelotti needs some time to adjust to the way the pathetic Spanish teams play football.

I mean if you look at Atletico's performance's in 2 legs vs Barca and against RM today plus there undefeated in the league and so far in the CL they are a pretty damn good team.

I know it's hard for some of you to understand because Premfaces and the media have conditioned you to believe every team in La Liga outside Madrid and Barca are crap but this Atletico team is not only good but they play with a mean streak and it's no fun to play against them.

by aleumdance Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:36 am

Madrid, have no Playmaker..

and I have no idea what Illaramendi is doing at Bernebeu

by Red Alert Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:39 am

They replaced Mesut Ozil for Gareth f*cking Bale is what's wrong with Ancelotti's Madrid. Laughing

by Grooverider Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:42 am

Ganso wrote:Out of form CF,headless chickens on the wings,inconsistent/misused playmaker(or maybe no playmaker at all),defensively unstable pivot,defenders who are crap at individual defending and the list goes on

by jibers Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:44 am

Count how many League titles Ancelotti had with Milan. There's your problem.

by Red Alert Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:46 am

jibers wrote:Count how many League titles Ancelotti had with Milan. There's your problem.

Look at the talent of the squad, too.

Such an overrated manager.

by teamanarchy Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:00 am

Knee-jerk.
It's one loss...
Atletico played very, very well.
The team will come back from this. Give it time

by vizkosity Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:03 am

he's meant to be a CL specialist...but yea, when was his last CL tittle :3? I forgot. As for league runs, he is not that special

by aleumdance Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:42 am

teamanarchy wrote:Knee-jerk.
It's one loss...
Atletico played very, very well.
The team will come back from this. Give it time

mate, you are easily forgetting Elche and Villareal

also keep in mind the Pre-Season Madrid played

by McAgger Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:44 am

teamanarchy wrote:Knee-jerk.
It's one loss...
Atletico played very, very well.
The team will come back from this. Give it time

Knee jerk my ass. You do know La Liga isn't like Prem, the winner usually gets very close to 100 points. The margin for error is ridiculously tiny. 5 points behind Barca at this point is as good as over.

by Djcomplain Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:54 am

vizkosity wrote:he's meant to be a CL specialist...but yea, when was his last CL tittle :3? I forgot. As for league runs, he is not that special

just 2 one winning with luck in penalty and 2007 win because of individual talent a.k.a Kaka.

This guy cannt win league with juve even with zidane del piero inzaghi salas conte etc
Milan Ucl win not because ancelotti but cause the other team suck periode and we really its a dreams team back then

Dida

Cafu Nesta Maldini J Stam
Pirlo
Gattuso Kaka Seddorft
Inzaghi Shevchenko

Sub
Kaladze
Jankulovski
Seginho
Rui Costa
Rivaldo
H Crespo
Gilardino

Tell me if this Guardiola Mou or SAF how much League Milan will win??

by aleumdance Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:56 am

McAgger wrote:
teamanarchy wrote:Knee-jerk.
It's one loss...
Atletico played very, very well.
The team will come back from this. Give it time
Knee jerk my ass. You do know La Liga isn't like Prem, the winner usually gets very close to 100 points. The margin for error is ridiculously tiny. 5 points behind Barca at this point is as good as over.

THIS..

you don't let Barca have 3 points above you, EVER...

by Grooverider Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:58 am

McAgger wrote:
teamanarchy wrote:Knee-jerk.
It's one loss...
Atletico played very, very well.
The team will come back from this. Give it time
Knee jerk my ass. You do know La Liga isn't like Prem, the winner usually gets very close to 100 points. The margin for error is ridiculously tiny. 5 points behind Barca at this point is as good as over.

this is true

by guest7 Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:02 am

Overrated manager.

You don't replace the best counter attacking manager with a inferior one with the same philosophy.

I predicted this at the start and I still believe Ancelotti won't last one season without the league. CL is too unpredictable and no matter how much of a "specialist" you are at it, it doesn't even guarantee a spot at the semis (unless you're Mou who manages to get to semis every season)

by aleumdance Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:09 am

I think at this point. Carlo knows he has to focus on Continental Footie now, that where his strength lies

by danyjr Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:14 am

McAgger wrote:Knee jerk my ass. You do know La Liga isn't like Prem, the winner usually gets very close to 100 points. The margin for error is ridiculously tiny. 5 points behind Barca at this point is as good as over.

5 points is nothing at this point of the season. Besides, why is everyone is forgetting about Atlético? They are currently superior to Barça and if they had a bit of squad depth, I would even put them amongst the title contenders. Simeone has done a great, great job and it is a shame that La Liga's financial system is so *bleep* up otherwise they would put the big two in their place.

by halamadrid2 Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:13 pm

Forza wrote:Too much pressure on Carlo to play the "star" players. It's one thing to buy an expensive player, and it's another thing to buy an expensive player that you need. The number of attacking players on the field would make you think that this is a 15 yr old's FIFA manager mode game in the 5th season.

This is probably the main reason. He has Jese, Morata and Casemiro on the bench yet they all get poverty mins because all these so called superstarts should play. everyone and their dogs know bale cant play as a rw yet thats where Carlo shoves him. continuing to stick with benzema when he obviously doesn't look interested? whatsup with that. I can continue but ill probably not. the season is long and I cant wait for the copa to come soon enough where these "unrealiable" youngsters can show him what he is missing

Give Coentrao to some other team that can use him as a left winger instead of as a full-back. He doesn't have good enough defensive capabilities to be in a back 4.

the other way round I believe. he would do alot better in a defensive team where he will standout when he makes one decent run and cross. I have said it before this guy is our left sided arbeloa. both are useless attacking wise

The other 3, Arbeloa, Pepe and Ramos aren't really up to scratch.

Arbeloa is a liability and everybody knows that bar Carlo. I don't know what he is thinking everytime he starts him. Pepe is good for a third choice cb and I want to test out nacho there because out of all our cbs including varane he is the best with the ball at his feet. so if carlo insists tge cbs have to do the playmaking at least he wont hoof it up like ramos and pepe

One of the biggest problems is that they have no proper DM.

Khedira is being used as a defensive midfielder - which he is not IMO. He is not tenacious enough in the tackle and I think his distribution skills are not as good as they used to be. I think he might improve his play if he was used as a CM with less defensive responsibilities.

funnily enough Khedira was supposee to be our DM but he has the ball skills of an injured baboon. we baught casemiro as his backup who has out performed him everytime he has been on the pitch but apparently he isn't ready yet

I always said that spending 32 mil on Illara was insane and whilst I don't doubt that Illara is talented, he cannot be expected to play pivot next to Khedira. He really needs a proper hard man playing next to him to relieve the pressure.

Illaramendi was a good buy but he needs a CM infront of him or a b2b who doesn't pass him the ball when he is marked

Di Maria is one of the poorest decision-makers I have ever seen play. He makes good runs and gets into dangerous positions only to cock it up time and time again.

I agree that sometimes he goes brain dead but it would help if there was a cf making runs ahead of him or carvajal playing instead of Arbeloa. his two recent poor games correlates with arbeloa starting the last two games which he hadn't for the previous 4 or so games in the season

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