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Post by zigra on Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:44 am

Don't get me wrong, I do have respect for his success. I just don't want to give him too much credit for it because it wasn't just down to his great managerial qualities.
De Boer made us play "solid" football for years. Not good or great, not bad or terrible either (though abysmal to watch). It was enough to win the league 4 years in a row wo you have to give some credit for it. But in the end we all know that had we played the same football the 5 years before de Boer came in, we wouldn't have won a single trophy.
Also you shouldn't forget that for many Ajax fans style is as important as success.
Well whatever.

Not sure about Bosz yet. I like his style or at least the style he wants us to play. Remains to be seen if he can really implement it and keep the team sharp all season. There are many promising signs so far so I'm happy for now.

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Post by rincon on Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:50 pm

It seems like once more there will be a manager trying the 4-2-3-1 in Italy lol.
I would have anyone that joins Juve sign a contract preventing him from ever playing this formation in Serie A.
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Post by zizzle on Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:58 pm

well tbh all the teams that tried it were shit

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Post by rincon on Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:13 pm

Benitez' awful 4-2-3-1 in inter and napoli still have me scarred. Mancini's didn't help either.
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Post by zizzle on Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:16 pm

Benitez lost the dressing room at Inter since day 1, and he had an injury crises to deal with, plus he's Benitez you know. Mancini didnt have the right players for it so it was stupid to begin with. A good example of 4231 success is mourinho in 2010, but that team was so strong that the formation didnt really matter. Guess we'll have to see

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Post by Vibe on Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:35 pm

Mourinho used 442 diamond in the league mostly. We usually switched in the second half if we needed to score or if starting with 4-2-3-1 we would switch to the diamond once we get ahead.
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Post by Vibe on Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:41 pm

Also the Thiago Motta - Cambiasso pivot was perfect. Aside from being slow, but the nature of Serie A and Cambiasso's intelligence negated that.

We also had Sneijder dropping deep, that trio was too good.
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Post by Luca on Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:46 pm

Don't forget Stankovic, very solid player in those days
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Post by Vibe on Sat Aug 13, 2016 7:19 pm

Stankovic did not play in 4-2-3-1. He was generally used for the diamond.
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Post by Luca on Sat Aug 13, 2016 7:56 pm

I was just speaking to your midfield in those days @vibe

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Post by zizzle on Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:02 pm

irrc we completely switched to 4231 starting january 2010 after signing Pandev, i dont remember every game but i thought 4231 was just a CL tactic and i was surprised how often we used it in the league.


De Boer won his first friendly today fielding 4231, and starting in the 2nd half he subbed off Medel for Jovetic and played Banega in a deeper role.

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Post by Robespierre on Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:44 pm

Our real problem is the awful athletic condition , Mancini caused damages this summer, we had to change that clown before of it.
It was evident even in last friendly match against Celtic.
This is the main problem and De Boer will have to make a great job, not beginning on easy conditions.
For the rest ... I read many words about the bad De Boer gamestyle , ok, but well I hope not many ppl saw Inter under Mancini . We came from a gamestyle based on " hoofball " , so it shouldn't be difficult to get better than it , and we are used to bad matches so it's not a great problem.
We got the 4th plave simply because the team is good for Serie A level , but Mancini basically flopped under us.
His only credit was about the mercato , beucase the team improved under him , thanks for Perisic and Miranda but coaching is another thing.
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Post by Robespierre on Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:43 pm

So much hype for a just poor man's Roy Hodgson.

Credit to Zigra and damnatio memoriae for me.
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Post by rincon on Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:52 pm

Pioli comes in and gets 16 out of 21 points, where are the haters at?
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Post by Katy Perry on Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:00 pm

Can't believe how much he was holding the best squad in Serie A back. This impostor will be in a 2nd division side like Benitez soon.
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Post by breva on Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:54 am

Inter has great personnel and the Chinese want to buy more.
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Post by RealGunner on Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:17 am

I'll put my hands up if he can carry Inter to top 4

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Post by Robespierre on Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:46 pm

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Post by zigra on Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:21 am

That's more like it Proud
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:44 am

Fantastic news.

The whole range of scoreline thread possibilities this opens up :bow: :bow:

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Post by RealGunner on Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:10 pm

Crystal Palace will aim to play like Ajax, says Frank de Boer
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Post by urbaNRoots on Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:13 pm

I'm sensing a Hans/Mole vs Robespierre/zigra beef.
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Post by Robespierre on Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:26 pm

Unreal debut in Premier League rofl

Zigrobes Molenation
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Post by zigra on Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:27 pm

Dominated possession.
Frank Molenation
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:58 pm

Let's just call him Sir Frank already

I don't think we have to wait

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Post by zigra on Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:42 pm

Sir Frank, still the man Proud
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