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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:58 pm

The prosecution in charge of the barca case sent a letter to a judge this morning asking that barcelona fc be charged for tax fraud. they are accused of not reporting the entirety of the contracts that led to the signing of nerman. Fraud estimated at 9.1 millions euros.

http://deportes.elpais.com/deportes/2014/02/19/actualidad/1392812646_785982.html
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Post by sportsczy Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:14 pm

http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Vers-une-inculpation-du-barca/442835

It gets worse than that... the Spanish judiciary has just ordered a full investigation of FC Barcelona for "fraud against the public treasury." They can go beyond the scope of the initial issue and investigate everything now. Similar to when the IRS catches you for something and then has the ability to check into everything as a result.

There is nothing the club can do now to stop this.  This is the same procedure that brought to justice the daughter and son-in-law of the King of Spain recently.


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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:15 pm

What will the punishment be if they can prove foul play?

Hefty fine and a slap on the wrist, or..?
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Post by sportsczy Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:17 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:What will the punishment be if they can prove foul play?

Hefty fine and a slap on the wrist, or..?
 Jail for the executives involved.  This is a criminal investigation.  The civil portion won't start until the criminal investigation and verdicts on that side are reached, if any...
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Post by sportsczy Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:32 pm

Canal+ in France did a massive investigation and airing a show about the Neymar case on Wednesday.... they showed a 3 min sneak just now.  According to Canal+, the transfer cost was €96 million for Neymar... once the full thing comes out and available on youtube, i'll post it.

Completely ripped Barca apart in the peak... called out the club in a big way. Should be fun to get the reactions here once it's seen Laughing
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Post by Onyx Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:34 pm

Still unsure as to why Barca had to hide the correct transfer fee in the first place. Just pay the fee normally and everything's ok.

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Post by The_Badger Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:36 pm

Rosell takes a massive shit on the club then runs away.

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Post by futbol Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:37 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Still unsure as to why Barca had to hide the correct transfer fee in the first place. Just pay the fee normally and everything's ok.

We're more than a club, brah. Only Real Madrid pay obscene transfer fees like that. :coffee:

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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:38 pm

now with the 9 mil tax they pay, you can raise that price to 115 mil lololololololol most expensive player of all time

Neymar :bow:
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Post by LeVersacci Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:40 pm

Inb4 Ronaldo: I am sad V2
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Post by EL Patron Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:40 pm

Fraudcelona  Laughing 

Nerman to bankrupt Barca  hmm 
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Post by Art Morte Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:41 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Still unsure as to why Barca had to hide the correct transfer fee in the first place. Just pay the fee normally and everything's ok.

Because the fee was probably too high to pay for the player and, more importantly, a big part of it apparently went to the player's dad, like, what do you call it, in Finnish it's "grease money", paid under the table to make things go smoothly.
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Post by Harmonica Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:48 pm

So TV shows now are the judge and jury?  Laughing 
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Post by sportsczy Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:18 pm

No but Canal+ is a major TV network in France and its their news department that's doing the show... not some TV show.  It's a standalone short documentary piece on the Neymar transfer that's going to be aired.

The big issue is FIFA.  They apparently got paid off to close their eyes on the deal... it's illegal to make a deposit on a player in advance in world football transfers.  So if that 10 mil initial payment is proven, FIFA has to do something... except they got their pockets lined too Laughing That's why they refused to release documents to the Spanish judiciary and now the demand had been made to the EU to enforce the document request to the EU.

Barca is trying so hard to make this go away... Rosell resigns and now a 9 mil "voluntary" payment to the Spanish tax authority. But all they're doing is giving extra legs to the case Laughing


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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:21 pm

LeVersacci wrote:Inb4 Ronaldo: I am sad V2



rofl


Ronaldo to demand a transfer, only to be bought back 10 days later for £120,000,000


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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:10 pm

LeVersacci wrote:Inb4 Ronaldo: I am sad V2
 Very Happy 
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Post by zigra Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:15 pm

LeVersacci wrote:Inb4 Ronaldo: I am sad V2
 :bow: 
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:50 pm

FC humble, just, self righteous is in decline. That neymar deal ended up being all kind of bad.
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Post by Doc Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:39 am

Barcelona execs being smart with foolishness while dragging this great club in the process. Well done boys...
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:58 pm

It's being reported in Spain that Barcelona paid 13.5 millions euros to the Taxman," to cover eventual interpretations of all contracts in Neymar signing" Laughing

they keep saying "we have done nothing wrong"

sure they just pay the money because they care about spanish economy Laughing


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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:02 pm

So both Messi and Barca tried to avoid paying tax, got caught and 'voluntarily' payed a sum of money to pay back what they owed and for it to be swept under the carpet smh

Spain need HM Revenue
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:04 pm

so at this point Neymar is the most expensive player of all time, clocking at about 119.5 millions.
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Post by The_Badger Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:05 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:so at this point Neymar is the most expensive player of all time, clocking at about 119.5 millions.

What is the actual break down of his cost?

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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:10 pm

57 millions transfer
10 millions for entourage
3 millions agent commission
16 millions in other shaky commissions
10 millions precontract deal in 2011
13.5 millions to the tax man

119.5 millions playa :bow:

fc humble and just tried to smear us when we signed Bale, meanwhile they were doing worse and trying to hide it. joke of an organization.
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Post by The_Badger Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:14 pm

I must say, Rosell's dealings haven't exactly covered the club in glory, but RM fans shouldn't throw stones in glass houses.


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