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Post by Arquitecto 5/9/2014, 06:23

Would be very happy with this signing, provided Valdés can recover back to fitness.


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Post by Collblanc 5/9/2014, 08:36

Great news for him and a solid signing for Liverpool. Will he be first choice?
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Post by futbol 5/9/2014, 09:08

He has a massive salary. So massive that he quit Barca for money and Monaco ultimately bailed out of their pre contract. Certainly higher than what Reina was on. Unless he's taking a pay cut now because no one is taking him otherwise, this move doesn't make much sense for Liverpool considering how they could have simply kept Reina who is a proven quantity in the EPL. Unlike what Valdes (post ACL injury Valdes in retirement mood at that, remember he wanted to play for Monaco infront of 2000 fans) might produce in England.

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Post by Art Morte 5/9/2014, 09:28

Fußball wrote:He has a massive salary. So massive that he quit Barca for money and Monaco ultimately bailed out of their pre contract. Certainly higher than what Reina was on. Unless he's taking a pay cut now because no one is taking him otherwise, this move doesn't make much sense for Liverpool considering how they could have simply kept Reina who is a proven quantity in the EPL. Unlike what Valdes (post ACL injury Valdes in retirement mood at that, remember he wanted to play for Monaco infront of 2000 fans) might produce in England.


He's a free agent, he has no salary. If we offer him a contract on our terms and he doesn't accept it, that's fine. As for Reina, I don't think Rodgers fancied keeping him. They had a bit of a fallout a year ago when Reina was loaned to Napoli and wrote a goodbye letter to Liverpool fans and everything. If we're interested in Valdes, I'm sure Rodgers sees him as an upgrade on Reina.

That said, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to try and sign Valdes. Ideally you would have a clear first-choice keeper in your team. While Mignolet has his shaky moments, I don't know if it would send him the right message to sign a keeper with as big a stature as Valdes's.
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Post by Red Alert 5/9/2014, 10:05

Art Morte wrote: While Mignolet has his shaky moments, I don't know if it would send him the right message to sign a keeper with as big a stature as Valdes's.


How can you blame him after you've seen what's playing infront of him? Laughing

Mignolet is the least of our worries.

Valdes is a great keeper don't get me wrong, but we shouldn't be nowhere near him. His age, wages, and injury, on top of the fact that Mignolet isn't the problem back there, really just shows us failing to identify problems within the squad. We're trying to fix a problem where there isn't one.
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Post by free_cat 5/9/2014, 10:39

A GK doesn't lose anything after a an ACL injury, he'll be in the top of his game and should be a clear starter. Great signing for Liverpool. Hope he still has his competitive edge and brings his championing to Liverpool to get them the much anticipated PL.
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Post by Red Alert 5/9/2014, 10:47

free_cat wrote:A GK doesn't lose anything after a an ACL injury, he'll be in the top of his game and should be a clear starter. Great signing for Liverpool. Hope he still has his competitive edge and brings his championing to Liverpool to get them the much anticipated PL.


I'm sorry but no you can't be anymore more wrong. lol


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Post by BeautifulGame 5/9/2014, 10:50

We have agreed a deal in principle acc to ballague. So clearly wages aren't an issue. Just needs to pass medical next month to tie him up.
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Post by Collblanc 5/9/2014, 11:07

I feel Valdes is not the kind of guy asking massive wages - probably accepting a wage cut compared to Barça. He left us not because he wanted more money but because he wants a different experience
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Post by McAgger 5/9/2014, 18:21

Is going to be a great signing. I just hope he's as good as he was before the injury.

One thing I love about this guy is that he puts his life on the line for the team which I've always admired even if I didn't like him much at Barca.
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Post by RealGunner 23/10/2014, 17:49

Sky Sports News HQ ‏@SkySportsNewsHQ
BREAKING: Former @FCBarcelona goalkeeper Victor Valdes to train with @ManUtd

Manchester United ‏@ManUtd
Louis van Gaal has offered Victor Valdes a chance to complete his rehabilitation from injury at #mufc.
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Post by Collblanc 1/2/2016, 16:39

https://gfycat.com/PlushDisfiguredCygnet @ standard liege

Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad how the mighty have fallen
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Post by jibers 1/2/2016, 16:43

Collblanc wrote:https://gfycat.com/PlushDisfiguredCygnet @ standard liege

Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad how the mighty have fallen


He should never have left Barcelona. 0 sympathy whatsoever. Stepping out of a 7* hotel to a basement.
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Post by Firenze 1/2/2016, 16:45

Collblanc wrote:https://gfycat.com/PlushDisfiguredCygnet @ standard liege

Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad how the mighty have fallen


this gif is amazing rofl

should try to go to the US

I have no sympathy for him because of his attitude tbh, refused to play with our reserves to regain fitness and now look at him Proud


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Post by Collblanc 1/2/2016, 16:46

the zoom-out has to be one of the most melodramatic scenes ever
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Post by futbol 1/2/2016, 18:55

jibers wrote:
Collblanc wrote:https://gfycat.com/PlushDisfiguredCygnet @ standard liege

Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad how the mighty have fallen


He should never have left Barcelona. 0 sympathy whatsoever. Stepping out of a 7* hotel to a basement.


I'm SO glad he decided to leave. No doubt Barca would've kept him for another 10 years if he didn't leave on his own, just because he's Catalan.

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Post by Lord Awesome 1/2/2016, 19:27

Standard Liege isn't so bad. They produce a lot of good talent. It's a loan, btw.
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Post by Art Morte 1/2/2016, 20:03

It's tough being a goalkeeper in the transfer market, just ask Valdes or De Gea.
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Post by Vibe 1/2/2016, 21:05

Why did he leave anyway? Would be at least second choice at Barca. Perhaps even first choice for a while longer if he stayed.

Reports said he left on his own, if that is true then career suicide.
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Post by jibers 1/2/2016, 21:09

Vibe wrote:Why did he leave anyway? Would be at least second choice at Barca. Perhaps even first choice for a while longer if he stayed.

Reports said he left on his own, if that is true then career suicide.
If he had stayed Barcelona would never have gotten TSG or Bravo. He lft because he felt he wasn't appreciated. Ego check was needed.
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Post by futbol 1/2/2016, 21:10

Vibe wrote:Why did he leave anyway? Would be at least second choice at Barca. Perhaps even first choice for a while longer if he stayed.

Reports said he left on his own, if that is true then career suicide.


Because he's weird in his head. In his mind he thought he deserved Messi level wages and when he wasn't offered that he ragequit. It is also said that he lost a lot of money with shady businesses which is why he initially signed a € 60M deal with Monaco who then bailed out after Valdes damaged his knee so he ended up in Louis van Gaal's reserve team.

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Post by Casciavit 1/2/2016, 21:48

Valdes leaving improved Barca's goaltending situation. They got one of the most talented on the ball GK's ever in Ter Stegen and a world class shot stopper in Bravo.
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Post by Adit 2/2/2016, 08:14

Should have known better. In such a least shot faced team the GK isn't important for his GK skills but mainly for his ball skills. There were number of gks just as good as Valdes is with his feet and they dumped him and brought another one.
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Post by futbol 2/2/2016, 17:44

Adit wrote:Should have known better. In such a least shot faced team the GK isn't important for his GK skills but mainly for his ball skills. There were number of gks just as good as Valdes is with his feet and they dumped him and brought another one.


I disagree. Obviously being Barca GK is in general an easier job than anywhere else but it's not an irrelevant position. Valdes let in a plethora of soft goals (on top of his seasonal brainfarts) where a world class goalkeeper could have made a real difference. Bravo is much superior. 1 1/2 seasons and I'm yet to see him doing any major brainfarts. He had one error against Sevilla last season and IMMEDIATELY rectified it the next game against Valencia when he saved the 3 points while Valencia were all over us.

Valdes was always a mental midget which shouldn't be surprising as he stated several times that he hated being a goalkeeper. When 1 on 1 he just froze and panicked, even with shit shots coming directly at him.



Like a Fifa glitch. Laughing

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce 2/2/2016, 18:15

No idea what you are on about Laughing Valdes in his prime was one of the best keepers around in 1 v 1 situations.... he saved Barca on many occasions in many big games but nobody remembers because Messi would go down the other end score a wonder goal and it would all be forgotten.

He'll never get the respect he deserves, because of the injuries post Barca and the fact people think for some reason that in the Pep era you could have put a random keeper off the street and the end result would have been the same apparently.
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Post by futbol 2/2/2016, 18:34

Nope. He was plain average. Of course he also saved Barca and of course he also had great games. Doesn't change that he was a plain average keeper in general.

"One of the best around in 1 on 1s". That's a great marketing gag.

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