Valdés on the way back

Nope. He was plain average. Of course he also saved Barca and of course he also had great games. Doesn't change that he was a plain average keeper in general.

"One of the best around in 1 on 1s". That's a great marketing gag.

Pep is a fraud but won two CLs with a shit keeper.

You can't have your cake and eat it, pls decide.

That's entirely possible. Valdes didn't play much of a part in those 2 CL victories. He received one shot on target in the CL final in 2011 for example. 0 shots on target against Arsenal in the same campaign. Etc. Hardly played a big role. If anything he made things complicated, should have saved that RVP near post goal at Emirates.

I did some quick research now:

10/11 CL knockout rounds:

Final vs. Manchester United: received 1 shot on target.

Semi-final vs. Mehdrid: received 1 shot on target in Camp Nou and 3 shots on target in Bernabeu.

Quarter-final vs. Donezk: received 1 shot on target in Camp Nou and 5 shots on target away from home (when the tie was already done and dusted with the 5-1 result from the first leg)

R16 vs. Arsenal: received 0 shots on target in Camp Nou and 5 shots on target away from home


Conceded 6 goals from 16 shots on target. That's a save percentage of 63 %. If we factor in that most of these shots weren't even threatening (Donezk in particular skews the stats with garbage efforts) he more or less only saved what any average goalkeeper would have saved and let in everything that required some goalkeeping skills.

As a comparison: ter Stegen (who is still developing and far from a world class keeper right now) last season:

Final vs. Juventus: received 6 shots on target.

Semi-final vs. Bayern: received 0 shots on target in Camp Nou and 8 shots on target in Bernabeu.

Quarter-final vs. PSG: received 2 shots on target in Camp Nou and 4 shots on target away from home

R16 vs. City: received 4 shots on target in Camp Nou and 4 shots on target away from home

=> 6 goals conceded from 28 shots = 79 % save percentage. As it should be from a world class keeper. Around 80 % save percentage is world class level. Fact.

Pep

Prime Xavi allowing no one a sniff of the ball.

Greedy

futbol wrote: When 1 on 1 he just froze and panicked, even with shit shots coming directly at him.

LOL Valdes was many things, but he never panicked when 1 on 1. I always thought he was actually good at those.

Won Belgian cup.

eelir wrote:

futbol wrote: When 1 on 1 he just froze and panicked, even with shit shots coming directly at him.

LOL Valdes was many things, but he never panicked when 1 on 1. I always thought he was actually good at those.

You can see futbol's objectivity here. Valdes 1 on 1 was his best quality and probably one of the best in the world.

Those are possibly the stupidest stats futbol has posted. So let's pick four games out of his career and let's pick four games out of ter stergans career.

You know, since futbol thinks Valdes has played four games in his career



Let's also ignore where the shot was taken, how difficult the save was, where it was made

And are those stats even real? Post statistics from a reputable source or stfu

Valdes was one of the best keepers 1v1 in the world

Regularly made Ronaldo his whipping boy

Yeah. I wouldn't go that far either.

it's safe to assume unless your iniesta or MSN the rest of the squad is useless and only carried by said players.
who needs a defense when you have MSN *according to gl logic* might as-well stick some kids across the block from camp nou and you wouldn't even notice the difference.

Absolutely agree with futbol. Every Ronaldo shot straight at Valdes m in 1 vs 1 some how ended up in back of post.

Not to mention his horrible one vs one on showing against Ronaldos calma goal , could've won Barca a league.


Ronaldo gets one on one-----occasion gets to him and shoots straight at valdes------>Valdes shits n his pants and let's in a FIFA glitch go.. This has been the case in past clasico.


Bravo is looking much better goalkeeper than Valdes who turned Belgian league level surprisingly after guardiola left.

Adit wrote:

Not to mention his horrible one vs one on showing against Ronaldos calma goal , could've won Barca a league.

Cost them a CL too . The drogba and Ramires goals were very savable to say the least .
He was averaging one goal conceded per shot on target near the end of that season .