Re: Barclay's Premier League '14-'15 discussion V2

by halamadrid2 Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:42 pm

England's problem is hype IMO. I don't know where I read it but young English players don't want to play for the youth teams and make themselves "unavailable" for selection because they think they are too good for it. When you look at other youth teams like Spain for example, kids like Sarabia and Muniain are still playing with them and bust their backsides off for them even though they are key players for their clubs (qualifying for cl in muniains case), there isn't the same culture in England. They get hyped up too much at a young age and when they fail to deliver they get criticed

by RealGunner Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:16 pm

Heard Beckham being mentioned somewhere.

I won't be opposed eventhough that would be a rash choice. Not that he can do any worse than Capello n co.

by Jay29 Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:17 pm

Isn't Beckham busy running a football club?

Henderson starts for England tonight, by the way.

by VendettaRed07 Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:08 pm

Beckham is trying to run a football club in Miami but he doesn't get a team unless he gets a deal for a stadium first and it doesn't look like Miami will let him have one

So it's plausible if he gives up soon

by Robespierre Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:19 pm

Sean Dyche :coffee:

by McAgger Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:15 pm

GoonerJay29 wrote:Isn't Beckham busy running a football club?

Henderson starts for England tonight, by the way.

Henderson can't be injured. Even if Woy tried. It's against the laws of physics.

by Hapless_Hans Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:43 pm

No seriously, it should be Wenger.
Let Hogdson stumble on until the 2016 Euros, then Wenger can take over.
2 more years at Arsenal suffice anyway.

Think about it, makes a lot of sense.

by RedOranje Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:00 pm

Lex wrote:Question; when Roy is eventually sacked, who replaces him?

Barclay's Premier League '14-'15 discussion V2 - Page 28 Englandmanagercomic

by Helmer Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:26 pm

not sure if someone already posted it:
https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/73D7CE38A81087989784800051200_25bc03620b6.0.3.7998394595479221217.mp4?versionId=U.uUiUcd6FEPlkTSNBaKwohdrC7PmPqx

rofl

by The Franchise Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:19 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:No seriously, it should be Wenger.
Let Hogdson stumble on until the 2016 Euros, then Wenger can take over.
2 more years at Arsenal suffice anyway.

Think about it, makes a lot of sense.

Not for Wenger. How long does he want to go without winning things?

by RealGunner Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:26 am

They already asked Arsene 3 times since 98 and he rejected all those times.

He will be offered the France job once he retires from club football in 2016. He might take that or he will just retire all together.

He knows better than taking the England Job. Same reason why SAF didn't take it either.

by Sri Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:22 am

The Franchise wrote:
Not for Wenger. How long does he want to go without winning things?

Lolwut?

by Art Morte Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:19 am

Wenger isn't a national team manager type anyway, he likes to work with his players closely and develop youth whereas NT managers just pick the best players of a nation and make them play together.

by The Franchise Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:36 am

srigooner wrote:
The Franchise wrote:
Not for Wenger. How long does he want to go without winning things?

Lolwut?

Where's the controversy? The FA cup was nice and all but be real.

by Helmer Tue Sep 09, 2014 3:03 pm

Only a manager like Mourinho can bring success to this England team, he will the best man to be approached when eventually Mourinho gets sacked by Abra :coffee:

by ExtremistEnigma Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:53 pm

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:Only a manager like Mourinho can bring success to this England team, he will the best man to be approached when eventually Mourinho gets sacked by Abra

Agree. Elite reactive managers like Mourinho are England's best bet to be honest.

by Zealous Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:11 pm

England need fresh new English managers if you ask me. Too many PL clubs nowadays go for the same old tired faces when choosing a manager.

Maybe this is because there is too much at stake in terms of PL survival but if England really are an elite footballing they should be embarrassed that they can't produce more competent coaches that are trend setters instead of followers.

by RedOranje Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:54 pm

Zealous wrote:England need fresh new English managers if you ask me. Too many PL clubs nowadays go for the same old tired faces when choosing a manager.

Maybe this is because there is too much at stake in terms of PL survival but if England really are an elite footballing they should be embarrassed that they can't produce more competent coaches that are trend setters instead of followers.

That's hardly a symptom seen only in the PL though. The same thing can be seen across football leagues and national associations.

by stevieg8 Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:16 am

While it's clear to everyone that Liverpool fans' personal opinions on Hodgson are coloring our discussion of this topic, I do have to say - isn't one of a manager's main responsibilities to accommodate his players' various training styles and physical needs? The game last week was a friendly, and I find it hard to believe that participating in those 90 minutes of essentially scrimmage would have a significant impact on Sturridge's ability to mesh with his teammates in the qualifier a few days later. Some could even argue (injury aside) that resting Sturridge and keeping him fresh for the game that actually counts would've been more effective, and considering his injury history, it really is a questionable decision to play him at all in the friendly, let alone the full game.

If Rodgers put Sturridge into one of our closed door friendlies (like the one we just had against Wolves), I would have a serious problem with it. Just like I don't want to see Gerrard playing against Middlesborough in the League Cup. You have to take care of your players, and some have different needs than others. Hodgson has REPEATEDLY failed at doing this.

by vivabarca38 Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:08 am

Zealous wrote:England need fresh new English managers if you ask me. Too many PL clubs nowadays go for the same old tired faces when choosing a manager.

Maybe this is because there is too much at stake in terms of PL survival but if England really are an elite footballing they should be embarrassed that they can't produce more competent coaches that are trend setters instead of followers.

A Myth is what that is,Top 6 teams all have managers who don't have alot of PRevious Pl experience with a different club if at all.Bottom teams want survival so they
Employ the same faces 'cause they're experienced and can ensure it....

by Gil Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:45 pm

I just got bollocked by my boss for laughing uncontrollably at this video. Neutral

http://vimeo.com/105233388

Whoever makes these definitely uses shrooms lol. WTF Laughing

by futbol Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:51 pm

It looks like something KSI would create. hmm

by M99 Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:50 pm

wtf did i just watch

by McAgger Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:33 pm

lol yeah I saw that on rawk. Someone was definitely tripping.

by Art Morte Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:34 pm

The curious case of Welbeck:

Many ex-Man United people, like Gary Neville, have come out and said they don't understand the Welbeck sale to a direct rival and that it breaks United's traditions and whatnot.

And now Wenger has said that: "If I'd stayed at home he wouldn't be here now." (Wenger wasn't in England on deadline day).

He wanted Welbeck on loan, perhaps with an option to buy.

Does nobody truly want him? Interesting to see how Wenger will use him after these comments.

btw, quite the motivational speech to Welbeck by Wenger there. "If I'd stayed at home he wouldn't be here now".

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29156465

by Sri Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:18 pm

Art Morte wrote:The curious case of Welbeck:

Many ex-Man United people, like Gary Neville, have come out and said they don't understand the Welbeck sale to a direct rival and that it breaks United's traditions and whatnot.

And now Wenger has said that: "If I'd stayed at home he wouldn't be here now." (Wenger wasn't in England on deadline day).

He wanted Welbeck on loan, perhaps with an option to buy.

Does nobody truly want him? Interesting to see how Wenger will use him after these comments.

btw, quite the motivational speech to Welbeck by Wenger there. "If I'd stayed at home he wouldn't be here now".

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29156465

Very good example of twisting words and half-truths here. I didn't expect you to be so gullible.

Full quote:

“Danny Welbeck is an ideal signing for us because he can play through the middle, which I think is his best position, but as well on the flanks,” he said.

“His qualities are his team attitude and his pace as well. As you could see with England, his goalscoring too. When you analyse his game you think he has the qualities to play through the middle.

“He was at Man United, where he had many big stars, and he is a player who is very versatile so he had to make room sometimes for players to play through the middle. But if you analyse in an objective way his qualities, I think he has the perfect style to play through the middle.

“He can make himself a better player [here] because I can help him. He's a young boy, he's not 24 yet and let's not forget that some players who arrived here at the age of 23 made huge careers here so I hope we can contribute and help him.”

Wenger was in Italy on transfer deadline day at a charity match, but he says that actually helped the Welbeck deal go through.

“If I had not travelled that day, Welbeck would not be here,” he said. “I'll explain that a bit later but the coincidence made that because I was on my way. If I had stayed at home, Welbeck would not be here today. That's the truth.

“We are in 2014 and you can always be in touch with everybody even when you travel. The advantage of that day was I had to get up at six o'clock in the morning and I was available the whole day.”

SOURCE: http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20140911/-we-can-make-welbeck-a-better-player-

I don't even... :facepalm:

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