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Post by MJ Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:09 pm

Watch the interview, he doesn't rule a striker out and if he's thinking of it, he's certainly not giving it away.


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Post by REWB Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:15 pm

im telling you, we are not buying a another forward player lol. we cant have 2 forward players out of 3 being new to the club starting, there will be no cohesion.

sanchez---new CF---cazorla

sanchez himself is already struggling to fit into the team, a new striker imo would just make things worse. i knew that once we brought sanchez there was no way another player in a forward position was going to come in.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:17 pm

RealGunner wrote:on whether Alexis can play up front for 3-4 months…

AW: For three or four months? He can play there his whole life. I bought him to play as a striker, not to play only on the flanks.

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Hmmm

Think that's our ST there.


That answers the question then. Well, why not?

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Post by Jay29 Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:19 pm

If we're doing that, I hope we ditch this 4-1-4-1 experiment and go back to 4-2-3-1. Need to get players close to Alexis and the 4-1-4-1 has too flat a midfield to accomplish that... and it forces Ozil out of his best position.

Di Marzio reckons we've bid €15mil for Rabiot, but PSG want €25mil.

http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/calciomercato/roma-and-inter-attempt-to-buy-rabiot-but-arsenal-are-in-the-lead-the-latest/

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Post by RealGunner Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:21 pm

Would take Rabiot. 6'2 at least lol
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Post by 6unner Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:22 pm

REWB wrote:im telling you, we are not buying a another forward player lol. we cant have 2 forward players out of 3 being new to the club starting, there will be no cohesion.

sanchez---new CF---cazorla

sanchez himself is already struggling to fit into the team, a new striker imo would just make things worse. i knew that once we brought sanchez there was no way another player in a forward position was going to come in.


We can have 3 of 3 having no experience playing together without bringing someone in. So what?

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Post by EL Patron Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:22 pm

If we get him, the competition in midfield will be insane Shocked
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Post by urbaNRoots Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:27 pm

If we are not getting a defensive midfielder then I'd much rather we aim a bit higher and go for Khedira instead of Rabiot, surely Real Madrid won't want him to go for free next season.
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Post by EL Patron Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:30 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:If we are not getting a defensive midfielder then I'd much rather we aim a bit higher and go for Khedira instead of Rabiot, surely Real Madrid won't want him to go for free next season.


Arsene will convert Rabiot to the player Diaby was meant to be :coffee:
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Post by Chumlum Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:30 pm

That's so much money for a young guy who hasn't even really played that much, and has a year left on his contract ...

Not anti-Rabiot or anything. Just saying. Even Arsenal's reported "low" offer is pretty high.
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Post by 6unner Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:31 pm

EL Patron wrote:
urbaNRoots wrote:If we are not getting a defensive midfielder then I'd much rather we aim a bit higher and go for Khedira instead of Rabiot, surely Real Madrid won't want him to go for free next season.


Arsene will convert Rabiot to the player Diaby was meant to be :coffee:


Laughing Heard that with different names a few times.

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Post by EL Patron Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:36 pm

6unner wrote:
EL Patron wrote:
urbaNRoots wrote:If we are not getting a defensive midfielder then I'd much rather we aim a bit higher and go for Khedira instead of Rabiot, surely Real Madrid won't want him to go for free next season.


Arsene will convert Rabiot to the player Diaby was meant to be :coffee:


Laughing Heard that with different names a few times.


How dare you doubt Arsene power of conversion Surprised
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Post by MJ Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:40 pm

I'm reading about Rabiot's mom/agent. She's extremely pushy and was the reason he left Man City's academy. He pushed for him to be loaned out and is the reason he's leaving PSG now as well. Very worrying to have a parent/agent who is that influential and destructive.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2014/08/22/5052111/keeping-mum-meet-young-psg-star-adrien-rabiot-and-his-pushy
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Post by RealGunner Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:42 pm

GoonerJay29 wrote:If we're doing that, I hope we ditch this 4-1-4-1 experiment and go back to 4-2-3-1. Need to get players close to Alexis and the 4-1-4-1 has too flat a midfield to accomplish that... and it forces Ozil out of his best position.



It does look like Arsene wants to play Sanchez like Chile does. But that won't happen in 4-1-4-1. It's best accomplished in a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-3-3.

And it can only happen when Walcott plays the Vargas role or Podolski/Campbell. Which I am sure they will. But that means a bit of shuffle with our other midfielders.

-------------------Szczesny----------------------
Debuchy------Mert----------Kos-----------Gibbs
--------------Ramsey---------Arteta-------------
-----------------------Ozil-----------------------
-----Walcott-------------------------------Oxlade/Cazorla/Poldi/Joel
----------------Sanchez--------------------------

It can work. Even if it's lightweight upfront. But it can work with more understanding between the players.
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Post by Sina Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:45 pm

lol RVP/Nasri went for 22-24M With one year left on contract
what in a world has Rabiot done to warrant that fee??
plus i dont think double pivot of him and Ramsey is ideal/not good enough defensively

Maybe deep passer in 4-3-3

we aint getting CF,dont care IF we do any business at all then

hope Arteta is back soon
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Post by Jay29 Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:53 pm

This is for a separate thread, but I think Arsenal need to also press high up the field if they want to play 4-1-4-1. Win the ball high up and you've already got players close to the lone front man.

I've not seen anything of Rabiot. Hear he's a good passer of the ball, which is important for Wenger. Good height, too. Maybe if he filled out a bit he could be a DM for us.

The price tag seems ridiculous, though, for a player in the last year of his contract. Can understand it for a player like Khedira, who's proven at the top level, but for a kid it would seem a very un-Wenger thing to do.


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Post by EL Patron Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:53 pm


Rabbiot looks like a right Mummy's boy as well Laughing

His mum sounds like trouble as well but Arsene will tame her, he has deal with people like these in the past. I remember Anelka had the worse entourage ever, his brother basically turned him into a mercenary.
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Post by RealGunner Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:54 pm

If Rabiot has the intelligence and positioning of Busquets then he will be alright. But that's a big IF

like IF we actually are in for him lol.

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Post by EL Patron Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:06 am

He is the type of player Arsene likes tho, good on the ball but not quite CM nor a DM. In my opinion he is too dynamic to play defensive mid maybe Arsene sees a potential defensive mid/deep lying playmaker in there like he did with Arteta hmm
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Post by RealGunner Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:28 am

Palmeri says Arsenal are in for Destro


Finally a good link. Would take him anyday.
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Post by Sina Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:47 am

which Palmeri is that?The Official Winter Transfer Rumours Thread - Page 8 Market_15514_1390429635

i Want Cavani/Falcao Sad
but Sanchez will there his whole life and Sanogo will be back him up Molenation
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Post by Twoism Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:08 am

Destro is fine, not an upgrade on Giroud btw, just an emergency signing that is. He's at about the same level as Giroud but does offer some more mobility.
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Post by Peccadillo Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:00 am

this thread has truly entered meltdown Laughing

Wenger just playing coy imo to drive prices down. Doesn't want to come across desperate. I still think we will resolve our striker situation before the window closes.
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Post by Emaharg Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:38 am

I don't even know why we don't just try get Song back from Barcelona he is being mentioned as someone to leave.
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Post by RedMamba Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:26 am

sanchez was bought to be played in the middle, wenger said it before, good thing he has to do it from the start. this late in the window, we cannot replace giroud, if we buy remy on 80k we won't be able to offload him the next 3 years. gotta take the bitter pill of wengers own making.

better build the team around sanchez than ozil and buy the frikking DM+CB already.
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Post by Peccadillo Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:58 am

Falcao loan 20m. Thoughts? (other than how ridiculous the idea is).. Just for fun though..

They pay his wages but we can't really say we save 15-20m on the deal because he gets paid X amount... lets say we had another striker of Falcaos stature - we would probably not pay more than 220k p/week, that's about 11m for the year.

So 9m "out of pocket" to sign Falcao for a year. Seems like a decent deal to me. Has its advantages in some ways to sign someone we don't really want on a 3-4 year contract. Particularly if that 9m will give us a genuine crack at the title/CL.
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