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Post by chad4401 Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:11 pm

cyborg do you read post from other members or just work with fifa and youtube clips? listen cr is not a cf,will never be that good of cf either just stop grow up already, cr plays best when he can use the cf to make space for him, he won't find those runs as pure 9 and for the last time scoring goals doesn't mean you can play cf

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Post by titosantill Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:31 pm

Cyborg wrote:James isn't a left centre midfielder either. he is an attacking midfielder, who can play on either side.

his best position is none. its one where he can roam and move along the front line. to me he will be better suited playing on the right or left of the Forward line instead of playing in a three man midfield

and its obvious to everyone bale plays better on the left. you get the full use of his abilities.

on the Ronaldo issue. I know that he doesn't like to play as a centre forward. but he has to realize that its inevitable. He isn't getting any younger and he is getting injured more often in these latter years. this is just my opinion, it open to debate but it may be easier on his body to be the focal point up top.

and don't forget for both bayern games last season he played as a centre forward, paired with benzema in a 4-4-2 for large portions of the game. especially the second leg.


when i said james has to play, i didn't mean in central mid but behind the striker in the nos 10 role....so it won't be a 4 3 3 , but rather a 4 2 3 1 which will see modric and kroos play double pivot (i have little faith in this); if we do go for pogba (next summer) it leads to more inconsistencies, why? it would mean reverting back to a 4 3 3, with pogba kroos and luka unless of course we sell luka, i've already explained my problems with the front line in such case....the major inconsistency will be that in a space of 3 seasons, we'd have gone from 4 3 3 to 4 3 2 1 back to 4 3 3, unless we can specialize in both, i don't see how constant altering of formation helps the team possess a dominant style.

the idea is to have a constant dynamic and alternatives that could work in challenging situations....not constantly changing dynamics to fit 1 player at the expense of the whole team....it leads to the david beckham makelele saga all over again; where becks n figo even played in the center of the park when their true role was on the wing, and guti played defensive mid
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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:06 pm

I am going to be extremely disappointed if we move from a successful 4-3-3 just to accommodate James, he was not needed and hasn't showed he is starting material yet so I couldn't care less if he cost 80 ME he shouldn't start to the determinant of the team. He can be a back up to the front three or replace Bale which I prefer. Looking at our midfield right now Modric-Kroos-Isco would be the best choice but hopefully we do buy another midfielder to play as LCM. Pogba won't come so it's pointless talking about, we are heavily linked with Veratti/Gustavo :facepalm: But those guys aren't coming to play "back up" they are coming to start which means Carlo shares my concerns about the midfield

The forward line will be complete once Negredo joins but if Arbeloa is leaving we are going to need another CB/RB and no not mr injury prone from Milan. Wouldn't mind a short term defender
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Post by Onyx Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:31 pm

Negredo's apparently injured for a while and plus I'm guessing he'd want to start if he did move.

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Post by Cyborg Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:26 am

i share your concerns tito. our system should be consistent. you know we played 4-2-2-2 in the pre season as well. lol

the only reason i suggested pogba is because i know that james as a left centre midfielder will not work. and modric and kroos alone will get destroyed.

but i cant talk about something that's not here. maybe illaramendi as CDM with modric and kroos just ahead might work.

hala, i agree with you, madrid didnt need james. but we have him. verrati and gustavo? why are madrid being linked to these players. i never understood the hype over veratti

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