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Post by danyjr Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:42 pm

Never seen a striker getting away with so many missed chances. Maybe he should play the behind the striker role because he plays well during link up but he has no poacher DNA nor a good shot on goal.

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Post by farfan Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:54 pm

danyjr wrote:Never seen a striker getting away with so many missed chances.l.


when did Benzema ever get away with anything ? he's by far one of football's most scrutinized players in recent years .
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Post by izzy Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:16 pm

farfan wrote:when did Benzema ever get away with anything ? he's by far one of football's most scrutinized players in recent years .


Because his fans make sure that anytime he plays poor, it's every-bodies fault he didn't play well, not his. He's the victim.

There's ZERO accountability when it comes to him.
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Post by Pip Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:28 am

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Big Benz. Molenation

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Post by farfan Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:43 am

izzy wrote:
farfan wrote:when did Benzema ever get away with anything ? he's by far one of football's most scrutinized players in recent years .


Because his fans make sure that anytime he plays poor, it's every-bodies fault he didn't play well, not his. He's the victim.

There's ZERO accountability when it comes to him.


you're acting as if there are millions of chads running the streets Laughing

if anything, what happened tonight is further proof that Benzema doesn't get away with anything .

he was by far France's best player against brazil, but one miss in a freaking friendly actually caused French forums to go ape shit with criticism ....again .
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Post by farfan Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:44 am

Pippo wrote:DMzema Returned - Page 13 M0xylonDMzema Returned - Page 13 H3b0YLy

Big Benz. Molenation


again , stop trying to be like fussball .

you're not subtle or witty enough ffs .
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Post by izzy Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:56 am

farfan wrote:you're acting as if there are millions of chads running the streets Laughing

if anything, what happened tonight is further proof that Benzema doesn't get away with anything .

he was by far France's best player against brazil, but one miss in a freaking friendly actually caused French forums to go ape shit with criticism ....again .



I don't care what happens in a friendly game. I don't care and apparently, neither does anyone on this forum since no one is talking about a meaningless game.

The fact is there is ZERO accountability when it pertains to him on this forum from his fans. That is a FACT.

Anytime he receives criticism, his fans rush to blame someone else or point to his stats just like Jiopsi does with Messi.
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Post by Pip Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:19 am

Benzema was "by far" France's best player? Were we watching the same match? scratch

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Post by Ganso Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:29 am

that was one hell of an awful miss

he wasn't good, but Greaseman and Valbuena weren't exactly helping
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Post by farfan Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:32 am

Pippo wrote:Benzema was "by far" France's best player? Were we watching the same match? scratch



well , i watched the game .

you watched GIFs .
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Post by nasir6371 Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:38 am

Never understood the "Muh Benzema Linkup play tho" argument. That excuse can work in Madrid with Ronaldo taking the score upon himself but not for the NT.

Perfect analogy is like saying Neuer has Great Sweeper play but letting in 2 goals a game. His main job isn't sweeper play or Link up in the case of Benzema its to put the ball in the back of the net.

Whatever best striker in the world :brickwall:

Spoiler:
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Post by farfan Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:42 am

nasir6371 wrote:Never understood the "Muh Benzema Linkup play tho" argument. That excuse can work in Madrid with Ronaldo taking the score upon himself but not for the NT.

Perfect analogy is like saying Neuer has Great Sweeper play but letting in 2 goals a game. His main job isn't sweeper play or Link up in the case of Benzema its to put the ball in the back of the net.

Whatever best striker in the world :brickwall:

Spoiler:


mentioning someone's world class link up game is " an excuse " now ? rofl

guess what he did in the world cup tho ? put the ball in the back of the net AND assist more than any player in the team Laughing

top assist provider AND top scorer for your national team in the biggest stage of them all , and you stil get called out for " sucking " .

and some people say Benzema gets away with stuff . rofl
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Post by FennecFox7 Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:53 am

Sorry, but benzema doesn't deserve any blame at the moment. we have far bigger issues such as bale staying headless, ronaldo not in top form, and our midfield getting dominated by any athletic b2b player around.

hes our top scorer and assister in 2015. He was by far our best player against barca. I mean i hate to say this but where tf was the criticism on cr when he missed an absolute sitter and hit the crossbar higuain style in the first half? it was from a pass from guess who.. benzema
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Post by elitedam Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:27 am

To be fair to Ben Zema he was up against (future) segundona legend Jefferson. So the misses are understandable.
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Post by chad4401 Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:52 am

Proud damn i must be hurting feelings, couple misses and here comes the pitch forks, acting like super goat striker suarez wasn't missing everything in sight, super goat aguero missed his pen in the camp, giroud was shit and arsenal needed a real top striker few weeks ago, again stfu this is a fight you clowns can't win, since you all keep flip flopping, treating a friendly like a WC final keep the tears coming, we will see whats what end of the season
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Post by izzy Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:39 am

FennecFox7 wrote:Sorry, but benzema doesn't deserve any blame at the moment. we have far bigger issues such as bale staying headless, ronaldo not in top form, and our midfield getting dominated by any athletic b2b player around.

hes our top scorer and assister in 2015. He was by far our best player against barca. I mean i hate to say this but where tf was the criticism on cr when he missed an absolute sitter and hit the crossbar higuain style in the first half? it was from a pass from guess who.. benzema


This is exactly what I'm talking about.
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Post by titosantill Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:17 am

i've come to the conclusion that lack of patience (for success and failure) is a recurring theme on this forum and football at large. fans get caught up in their emotions on players and when the player performs there is a mute response, then one bad game and the "i told you so" kings come out sparring. its one thing to critique benzema's brazil game, its quite another to play the "i told you so" card based on one game, on a player who has shut his critiques (myself included) up with stellar performances in the last two years, including the world cup. at least wait till the season ends before crucifying him.

its the same with the benzema suarez debates, you can't wait for every good or bad game to say "i told you so", wait till the season ends, and if that's too long, wait till at least there's a run of good or bad performances. to come out after the odd bad game, especially in a meaningless friendly reeks of desperation.

and the same goes for success, i remember when we were winning at the start of the season and everyone and their dog said this was the best madrid side since di stefano.....really? we can't be the best based on "titles" like super cups or intercontinental cups...trophies and legacies are cemented in june, not december (another reason why handing out balon d'ors in january doesn't make sense to me, but that's another debate/ can of worms on its own)

benzema's playing well, a meaningless friendly for france should have no impact on what he does at madrid, and if this is a way of advocating for giroud, stop it, even arsenal fans know giroud can't lace his boots. i'll have to agree with the benzema 'fanboys/fangirls' on this one, any anti-benzema agenda based on this game is ridiculous
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Post by huntsman Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:39 pm

If you dont want him at Madrid, he's more than welcome to join the ranks of Chelsea.
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Post by Kaladin Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:25 pm

huntsman wrote:If you dont want him at Madrid, he's more than welcome to join the ranks of Chelsea.


I'll email him
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Post by EarlyPrototype Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:12 pm

Benzema is the sort of bloke that would wear astros to a club and still pull a 10.
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Post by LeVersacci Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:27 pm

El Shaarawy wrote:
huntsman wrote:If you dont want him at Madrid, he's more than welcome to join the ranks of Chelsea.


I'll email him
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Post by Thimmy Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:01 pm

titosantill wrote:i've come to the conclusion that lack of patience (for success and failure) is a recurring theme on this forum and football at large. fans get caught up in their emotions on players and when the player performs there is a mute response, then one bad game and the "i told you so" kings come out sparring. its one thing to critique benzema's brazil game, its quite another to play the "i told you so" card based on one game, on a player who has shut his critiques (myself included) up with stellar performances in the last two years, including the world cup. at least wait till the season ends before crucifying him.

its the same with the benzema suarez debates, you can't wait for every good or bad game to say "i told you so", wait till the season ends, and if that's too long, wait till at least there's a run of good or bad performances. to come out after the odd bad game, especially in a meaningless friendly reeks of desperation.

and the same goes for success, i remember when we were winning at the start of the season and everyone and their dog said this was the best madrid side since di stefano.....really? we can't be the best based on "titles" like super cups or intercontinental cups...trophies and legacies are cemented in june, not december (another reason why handing out balon d'ors in january doesn't make sense to me, but that's another debate/ can of worms on its own)

benzema's playing well, a meaningless friendly for france should have no impact on  what he does at madrid, and if this is a way of advocating for giroud, stop it, even arsenal fans know giroud can't lace his boots. i'll have to agree with the benzema 'fanboys/fangirls' on this one, any anti-benzema agenda based on this game is ridiculous


I don't think Benzema deserves any criticism based on his performances in recent time, and especially not based on his overall contributions for Real Madrid over the past year - he's easily been one of our most consistent performers, and his game has developed so much since his joined the club over half a decade ago.

With that being said, I still stand by my opinion that the club has been extremely patient with him, and I know some people will disagree with me on this, but there used to be a time when he was consistently playing on a level similar to what Bale has been displaying this season. There was a time when the Real Madrid board had to decide between selling either Híguain or Benzema, and a lot of people were disappointed when the former was shown the door.

I had a soft spot for Benzema. Having watched him perform for Lyon, not only on TV, but also from the stands of Stade de Gerland; I had a significant bias towards him, and I was ecstatic when he signed for Real Madrid. During his first two years at the club, I was one of those people who kept clinging to the self-deception of his talent eventually coming to fruition, as long as the club had faith and patience in him.

One can only speculate on the reasoning behind the decision of keeping the player who, in the eyes of the majority of speculators, perhaps had more talent, but was the worse performer out of two players who were both performing below par - but time has shown that they definitely made the right choice, and the Benzema of today is a player that I have no doubt would be a significant contributor and asset to any top team.

However, I think people are quick to forget that Real Madrid have been extraordinarily patient with Benzema. Especially, considering how little patience they have with their players, in general. After two years of defending and justifying Benzema's poor performances, occasional clumsiness, lack of clinicality and tendency to lose possession of the ball for no other reason than incompetence - I was fed up, I'd lost hope and I opened my eyes to the possiblity that he could end up in another club like Híguain, or even worse, turn out to be another player that pundits and casual supporters would refer to as "another player ruined by Real Madrid".

But everything turned out well. I certainly don't miss Híguain. I held him in high regard for his passion and personality, but I know for damn sure that Benzema is a better fit for this team than El Pipita would be, and I have no doubt about who's more talented. I don't really see any logic in people claiming that he's either a scapegoat or immune to criticism, though. The way I see it, a lot of people have conveniently forgotten about his forgettable past - some even claim it never happened - and others are quick to give him all credit when he's been one out of several cogs in a winning machine. I may be wrong, but this up and down treatment by fans is generally not exclusive to Benzema. The difference is that he has a few hardcore fans on here that will blow it out of proportion when he does get criticized, which in turn leads to more criticism and focus on his performances.
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Post by Kaladin Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:58 am

Just gonna put this here:

Benzema in La Liga: 26 apps 13 goals 9 assists

Menez in Serie A: 26 apps 15 goals 4 assists

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Post by jibers Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:59 am

El Shaarawy wrote:Just gonna put this here:

Benzema in La Liga: 26 apps 13 goals 9 assists

Menez in Serie A: 26 apps 15 goals 4 assists



:bow:
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Post by Valkyrja Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:05 pm

DAT stats are insane for a DM. Benz :bow:
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Post by M99 Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:48 pm

El Shaarawy wrote:Just gonna put this here:

Benzema in La Liga: 26 apps 13 goals 9 assists

Menez in Serie A: 26 apps 15 goals 4 assists



And they laughed when you called him best French striker Proud

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