US Presidential Race

Why they hate government?

Why they hate government?

badamtar wrote:Why they hate government?

Liberty, and uh, self reliance.

Only anarchists hate the government. Conservatives and Libertarians here in the States simply advocate for the government to reduce it's current role. They believe it should be much smaller than what it is today and that there should be less of its influence and encroachment on the lives of the citizens.

Just my take on it based on the conversations I've had with folks.

That's why I said they hate "the government", not "government". They hate the one you got, not necessarily the concept of it altogether. They don't like the politicians, they think it's too bloated etc. etc. - most people are fine with the notion that government should be a thing.

Just thought I'd bump this. Let's hope the tea party terrorists don't even get a third of the american vote. Then again, pigs can't fly..

Even when the government shut down, people still find a way to hate obama and the left wingers. Democrats are no saints due to lobbying and bankrolling but id bet my money theres a lot more honest lefties then tea party terrorists out there

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2015/02/27/yes-scott-walker-really-did-link-terrorists-with-protesting-teachers-and-other-unionists/

Here's another gem from the tea party propoganda machine.

Mathematically I don't think the Grand Old Party, as it currently is, will ever be able to win the white house again. Not only has the nation shifted mentally, but Demographics have made such a win for them impossible in their current incarnation.

Let this be a sign to people of what horrid things can happen when you allow your party to be dictated, and overrun, by the most disturbing of fringe elements.

Well, you never know. A few months back I read an article about a GOP plan to gerrymander the electoral college. It wasn't a fringe idea either. It had quotes from politicians who were in a position to do something about it.

kinda related

Netanyahu giving his speech right now. Doing his best to shit all over Obama and win republicans' hearts.

Not a smart move, with the candidates the GOP has mustered up so far, he might be better off kissing some Clinton ass.

RealGunner wrote:kinda related

Netanyahu giving his speech right now. Doing his best to shit all over Obama and win republicans' hearts.

It's pretty ridiculous that the republicans invited a foreign PM to the US to shit on the US president. Regardless of where you stand on Iran's nuclear program and a possible deal with them, it's outstanding this guy was getting applause, let alone helping the republicans score political points.

Netanyahu is also making Israel, which is (was?) an issue with bipartisan consensus, into a Republican issue. This is bound to leave several people in the Democratic party with a sour taste.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

RealGunner wrote:kinda related

Netanyahu giving his speech right now. Doing his best to shit all over Obama and win republicans' hearts.

It's pretty ridiculous that the republicans invited a foreign PM to the US to shit on the US president. Regardless of where you stand on Iran's nuclear program and a possible deal with them, it's outstanding this guy was getting applause, let alone helping the republicans score political points.

Netanyahu is also making Israel, which is (was?) an issue with bipartisan consensus, into a Republican issue. This is bound to leave several people in the Democratic party with a sour taste.

Netanyahu is pushing the line right now.

I'm praying that he doesn't know where it is and it spectacularly backfires.

There is enough jewish influence right now to give him breathing room for whatever the fk he wants to say.. but this COULD be too far.

Actually, it's way too far if you want to be objective, but even with the zionist bias in the govenment, it still could be too far. I hope he gets cocky and keeps pushing the line.

The extreme right wingers in israel are too dominant btw.. and its a case of brainwashing and violence.

Hope the same doesn't happen in the US

The thing many people are overlooking is, that Netanyahu is widely disliked even among jewish poeple - especially outside Israel.

Just look at the shit storm of people making pics with "You're not speaking for me"-signs.

Israeli politics are f*cked up by a war of attrition nobody can win, and the impotence of the opposition, but even when winning, Netanyahu hardly has favorable ratings.

Say nothing of the Jewish expats everywhere, they, as a rule of thumb, hate the guy. Conflating hatred of right-wing militarism with antisemitism is probably Netanyahus biggest advantage - he's comfortably to the right of what most centrists and moderates are comfortable with, yet his critics often entertain antisemitic sentiment, so they discredit themselves. Shame, really.

Yeah but the silent majority in israel don't speak up. The polls in israel are always by far favoring extreme action because the far left and moderates are too scared to speak up. Every time a moderate president is elected, israels terrorist right wingers assassinate him.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/netanyahu-enters-never-never-land/2015/03/05/2f279c3c-c372-11e4-ad5c-3b8ce89f1b89_story.html

And so the first candidate for either party officially throws his hat into the ring for 2016 in Ted Cruz.

One does have to admire the unintended symbolism in the first GOP contender entering the race formally announcing his candidacy to an audience of compulsory attendees at a university founded by far-right theocon zealot Jerry Falwell that teaches that the earth is 6,000 years old and that humans lived alongside dinosaurs.

The first us candidate is a Canadian born to a Cuban father

I know there are many interpretations of the phrase 'natural-born citizen' but with the way the Republicans tried to hang Obama out to dry even though he was born in Hawaii, you would think Ted Cruz's eligibility for presidency itself will be up for question.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:The first us candidate is a Canadian born to a Cuban father

Don't call me James wrote:I know there are many interpretations of the phrase 'natural-born citizen' but with the way the Republicans tried to hang Obama out to dry even though he was born in Hawaii, you would think Ted Cruz's eligibility for presidency itself will be up for question.

Donald Trump has already given him the hard welcome by insisting on Cruz releasing his birth certificate

So, Hillary Clinton is running for president. She seems like a good and skilled politician. Would be sort of cool if the U.S. got its first female president, too.

However, she'd be 69 when entering office. Somehow 70+ year-old people in positions of great power unnerve me a little.

Also Rand Paul announced about a week ago. Of course plenty more will be announcing, but as it stands can't see either Paul or Cruz beating Hillary. The GOP really needs some better candidates.

I think Jeb Bush will be GOP's main candidate.

Art Morte wrote:So, Hillary Clinton is running for president. She seems like a good and skilled politician. Would be sort of cool if the U.S. got its first female president, too.

However, she'd be 69 when entering office. Somehow 70+ year-old people in positions of great power unnerve me a little.

I am so lukewarm to Hillary, but it is very very early in this race. Really need to see what she says about her time with the State Department. If ever there was an area that will trip her up, it's foreign policy.

Also Marco Rubio announced yesterday. A rising star on the GOP side, but he's very inexperienced and I don't think we need that in our next president. Obama, for all of his strengths, was very inexperienced....and it showed.