Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 21

by Freeza Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:12 pm

Great in ring is how entertaining you are, great spots, cool moves and great selling in WWE. Not great in-ring as techincal wrestling always.
Kurt Angle was the complete package in everything though.

by Onyx Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:17 pm

Generally the IWC's definition of 'good wrestler' is somebody who knows 10000 different holds like Bryan, Dean Malenko, Regal, Benoit etc.

But yeh, I don't care about that type of wrestling ability. Just as long as they can put on a good match, then that's all that matters.

A lot of people solely like Rollins simply because he can put on a good match. However putting on a good match should never be the only reason somebody gets to be World champion.

by Onyx Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:20 pm

Freeza wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:Exactly, you don't need to be a high skilled indy technical amazing 100 headlock variation knowing wrestler to put on classic matches.

Did this dude just call Sheamus vs Bryan a classic match?

Who?

by M99 Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:23 pm

John Cena and Daniel Bryan are more than familiar with WWE gold. Cena captured 15 WWE World Heavyweight Championships, while Bryan claimed four in as many years.

The two megastars both left WrestleMania with titles, with Cena winning the United States Championship from Rusev and Bryan grabbing the Intercontinental Championship in a 7-Superstar Ladder Match.

So who will be the first challengers to step up against Cena and Bryan? Will Rusev and Bad News Barrett look to reclaim their lost prizes? And is a new era underway for these storied championships with such dominant Superstars now in their possession?

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2015-03-30/raw-five-point-preview-march-30-2015-27247357/page-5

Let's keep pretending Bryan is a midcarder even though WWE is putting him in the same status as Cena.

Triple H said on the podcast he wants to raise the prestige of the belts. This is a good start.

by Freeza Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:31 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Generally the IWC's definition of 'good wrestler' is somebody who knows 10000 different holds like Bryan, Dean Malenko, Regal, Benoit etc.

But yeh, I don't care about that type of wrestling ability. Just as long as they can put on a good match, then that's all that matters.

A lot of people solely like Rollins simply because he can put on a good match. However putting on a good match should never be the only reason somebody gets to be World champion.

I agree with this, but I still think Rollins offers at least the same on the mic as Bryan. Bryan is vastly overrated in that regard. Basically only got popular becase he had a catchphrase that was easy for fans to chant.

Only chants that was going aroung yesterday was this is awesome or Cena sucks.

Benoit was great in ring, both technical and entertaining wise. He supplexed everyone with style and risked his brain, which evetually ended him.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:35 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Generally the IWC's definition of 'good wrestler' is somebody who knows 10000 different holds like Bryan, Dean Malenko, Regal, Benoit etc.

But yeh, I don't care about that type of wrestling ability. Just as long as they can put on a good match, then that's all that matters.

A lot of people solely like Rollins simply because he can put on a good match. However putting on a good match should never be the only reason somebody gets to be World champion.

I don't want to keep saying this, but that's exactly the reason you claimed Bryan should be champ because of his apparent in ring ability.

Make your mind up lol, Rollins is fantastic in the ring and from what i can tell he's no scrub outside of it either.

A lot worse people than Rollins have had multiple world title runs just because they are fantastic in ring workers and make everyone else they face look better than they are.

by izzy Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:45 pm

I still can't believe they made Daniel Bryan a mid-carder and gave him that belt........

Just doesn't look good. So what we'll end up with is a bunch of guys who should have been given their main event championship push so long ago, now fighting for scraps?

OK then...... that is NOT how you bring prestige back to those belts...... especially with Cena.

by zizzle Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:47 pm

Got the bootlegged WM DVD less than 24 hours after the event, the guy in the shop i got it from was watching it and paused so i dont see any spoilers.

Despite the shit buildup this WM wasnt so bad in terms of the show itself but i hated most of the results. The IC match had good spots but nothing too impressive, good match. Orton vs Rollins was a good match but i didnt like the result. Sting vs HHH started great but once DX and NWO got involved i knew its gonna be WCW vs WWE and WWE always wins..Rusev vs Cena was great but why does Cena need this ? That followed by Bray losing to Taker wasnt fun to watch despite the good matches.

The main event was great in terms of seeing Roman punished, and in terms of the result, well at least one young guy got a win here. And btw, did anyone else notice how stiff Reigns and Lesnar were? Its as if they were trying to hurt each other

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:48 pm

Wasn't even mid card tbh, Ronda Rousey got more air time :coffee:

by izzy Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:51 pm

Just total disrespect to Bryan imo.

by Onyx Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:09 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:Generally the IWC's definition of 'good wrestler' is somebody who knows 10000 different holds like Bryan, Dean Malenko, Regal, Benoit etc.

But yeh, I don't care about that type of wrestling ability. Just as long as they can put on a good match, then that's all that matters.

A lot of people solely like Rollins simply because he can put on a good match. However putting on a good match should never be the only reason somebody gets to be World champion.

I don't want to keep saying this, but that's exactly the reason you claimed Bryan should be champ because of his apparent in ring ability.

Make your mind up lol, Rollins is fantastic in the ring and from what i can tell he's no scrub outside of it either.

A lot worse people than Rollins have had multiple world title runs just because they are fantastic in ring workers and make everyone else they face look better than they are.

In addition to his in ring ability, Bryan was hugely over and I mean hugely over at times last year. Arenas were getting hijacked and people were literally in tears when he lost. Not only that, but he has undeniable charisma and has an underdog appeal where you just want to route for him. Plus babyfaces unlike heels can get over mainly based on their in ring work. Think Rey Mysterio, RVD, Jeff Hardy etc.

That's why I really do think Rollins would be better off as a face.

by Onyx Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:12 am

Y0lo, gonna watch the opening segment of RAW. That post WM crowd ffs. :bow:

by Onyx Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:41 am

Loool shoving a fan. :bow:

Reigns also with dat extra security.

https://33.media.tumblr.com/872d3b65ad65e1c02fa217a2de4d702a/tumblr_nm0jlxtpIN1tzmgmxo1_500.gif

by M99 Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:00 am

Freeza wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:Generally the IWC's definition of 'good wrestler' is somebody who knows 10000 different holds like Bryan, Dean Malenko, Regal, Benoit etc.

But yeh, I don't care about that type of wrestling ability. Just as long as they can put on a good match, then that's all that matters.

A lot of people solely like Rollins simply because he can put on a good match. However putting on a good match should never be the only reason somebody gets to be World champion.

Basically only got popular becase he had a catchphrase that was easy for fans to chant.

No. Not at all.

In the Wrestlemania 30 documentary WWE themselves acknowledged that Bryan got over because of being himself not the chant. The 18 second loss is what made him. Cena said it in the DVD, Bryan was super hot going into WM28 and has an embarassing loss and at that moment fans went, "This is a guy we like, why are you burying him?" and got behind him even more. His weak link storyline put him in the massively over territory and after that he beat Cena clean. They tried giving the yes chant to big show on 2013 but no one responded to him. Fans chant Yes because they love Bryan.