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We suck again

No but really, so many new players. New formations. A lot of changes.

It's going to take some time to settle everything down. I think Khedira can be a game changer, we really lack some composure in the midfield. He is experienced and talented, not as a regista but just as a presence.

Fraudba has been really disappointing this season. He was given the keys to the team and so far, he's failed in just about every imaginable way.

Loan Pirlo back to us in January = scudetto

A cake that tastes like shit...we can't even beat Chievo FFS

Marotta *bleep* it up touching our midfield and not bringing at least one top quality midfielder during pre-season.
I hope we change the next match and get back to our old self cuz so far we seem so bad,absolutely not concentrated and not effective.

I know we need a bit more time maybe but Chievo is a team we must beat even in our worst day.Leaving points with such teams is a hit to our players morale.

@juvealbanian

Calma... Hernanes was MOTM today clearly... He deserved a goal and to take the penalty. He is a key man in this Juve IMO.

Luca wrote:We suck again

No but really, so many new players. New formations. A lot of changes.

It's going to take some time to settle everything down. I think Khedira can be a game changer, we really lack some composure in the midfield. He is experienced and talented, not as a regista but just as a presence.

Fraudba has been really disappointing this season. He was given the keys to the team and so far, he's failed in just about every imaginable way.

Loan Pirlo back to us in January = scudetto

True... We need Pirlo and tevez back, someone who has this strong personality to push the team. It would be great to loan Pirlo back and I think that it is possible really.

Saint Beppe is always right

no chance of winning the league now, top 3 will even be a blessing, we are just an everyday Serie A side now and even the low teams fear us no more.

elm_baraja_shaman wrote:Saint Beppe is always right

no chance of winning the league now, top 3 will even be a blessing, we are just an everyday Serie A side now and even the low teams fear us no more.

Meh.. it's still too soon to lose the plot
There's so many new players and so many big presence players leaving.
League and season decided in September

But it isn't looking great

Luca wrote:

elm_baraja_shaman wrote:Saint Beppe is always right

no chance of winning the league now, top 3 will even be a blessing, we are just an everyday Serie A side now and even the low teams fear us no more.

Meh.. it's still too soon to lose the plot
There's so many new players and so many big presence players leaving.
League and season decided in September

But it isn't looking great

Luca wrote:

elm_baraja_shaman wrote:Saint Beppe is always right

no chance of winning the league now, top 3 will even be a blessing, we are just an everyday Serie A side now and even the low teams fear us no more.

Meh.. it's still too soon to lose the plot
There's so many new players and so many big presence players leaving.
League and season decided in September

But it isn't looking great

Lazio, Napoli, Fiorentina, Torino (away and even home), Hellas (away), Inter..

with the way we are playing, no way we are beating those teams, unless something drastic changes, time to bench Sturaro for good.

elm_baraja_shaman wrote:

Luca wrote:

elm_baraja_shaman wrote:Saint Beppe is always right

no chance of winning the league now, top 3 will even be a blessing, we are just an everyday Serie A side now and even the low teams fear us no more.

Meh.. it's still too soon to lose the plot
There's so many new players and so many big presence players leaving.
League and season decided in September

But it isn't looking great

Luca wrote:

elm_baraja_shaman wrote:Saint Beppe is always right

no chance of winning the league now, top 3 will even be a blessing, we are just an everyday Serie A side now and even the low teams fear us no more.

Meh.. it's still too soon to lose the plot
There's so many new players and so many big presence players leaving.
League and season decided in September

But it isn't looking great

Lazio, Napoli, Fiorentina, Torino (away and even home), Hellas (away), Inter..

with the way we are playing, no way we are beating those teams, unless something drastic changes, time to bench Sturaro for good.

elm_baraja_shaman wrote:

Luca wrote:

elm_baraja_shaman wrote:Saint Beppe is always right

no chance of winning the league now, top 3 will even be a blessing, we are just an everyday Serie A side now and even the low teams fear us no more.

Meh.. it's still too soon to lose the plot
There's so many new players and so many big presence players leaving.
League and season decided in September

But it isn't looking great

Luca wrote:

elm_baraja_shaman wrote:Saint Beppe is always right

no chance of winning the league now, top 3 will even be a blessing, we are just an everyday Serie A side now and even the low teams fear us no more.

Meh.. it's still too soon to lose the plot
There's so many new players and so many big presence players leaving.
League and season decided in September

But it isn't looking great

Lazio, Napoli, Fiorentina, Torino (away and even home), Hellas (away), Inter..

with the way we are playing, no way we are beating those teams, unless something drastic changes, time to bench Sturaro for good.

Key being the way we are playing
Believe me, I'm actually with you. Like this, lucky if we finish top 10, let alone 3.

But much can change. There is still talent in the team. Lots of talent even, just about finding the right combination and maybe not conceding the first goal every damn time

Chill. Look at the starting XI and who is out. That starting XI was maybe good enough for top 10 but not top 3.

The big issue is talent right now and then new players. Until enough talent is available to play and are put on the pitch, you can't really judge anything.

I am back from my vacation guys.

On the game : Time, give it time. Nothing more.

Welcome back devi! I agree with you. The squad needs to learn how to play as a team rather than individuals. If we have that, then trust me... The scudetto will be in our pocket

Our first point

Seriously though, we lack character.

With Lichtsteiner, Chiellini and Marchisio back, I hope that we will look more calm and have that winning mentality again.

Marchisio will miss the city game.

Spoiler:

As much as I hate 3-5-2, I think that we better use it until January and if Khedira and Asamoah are 100% fit after the winter break, we can switch back to a 4-3-1-2.

We need to follow a plan with continuity, pick a formation and stick with it. With so many new faces and the injuries, constant switching of formation will only make things worse.

DeviAngel wrote:Marchisio will miss the city game.

so will Aguero likely for City

I heard Marchisio is out for a month, I hope that's not true.

Let Marchisio take his time coming back... We need the team more than the individuals! I think that even if we get tevez Pirlo and Vidal back, we will be playing like this.

B-Mac wrote:

DeviAngel wrote:Marchisio will miss the city game.

so will Aguero likely for City

I dare to say that we'll feel the loss of Marchisio more than they will Aguero's

Andrew_p wrote:

Morata Dybala
Alex Sandro Pogba Hernanes Marchisio/Pereyra Cuadrado
Chiellini Bonucci Barzagli
Buffon

As much as I hate 3-5-2, I think that we better use it until January and if Khedira and Asamoah are 100% fit after the winter break, we can switch back to a 4-3-1-2.

We need to follow a plan with continuity, pick a formation and stick with it. With so many new faces and the injuries, constant switching of formation will only make things worse.

4-3-2-1 with Cuadrado and Dybala behind Mandzukic/Morata is the way to go at this pt. Lemina Pogba to flank Hernanes until Marchisio returns and also we start winning say 5 straight or something, then we can start rotating 4-3-1-2/4-3-2-1, we cannot keep Cuadrado from not starting.

and our midfield needs that grit, drop Sturaro and throw Padoin into the sea, Lemina will add steel to this mid till Khedira returns at least,

but why do I have a feeling Allegri will opt for 3-5-2 and will doom us

3-5-2 doesn't benefit us.


I believe in a 4-3-1-2 with the midfield 3 being the most important part and the part that we need to get right. I'd like to see Lemina, I don't see the harm

4-3-2-1 is the way to go a win against City will turn our season around.

Sure 4-3-2-1 looks fine but does Allegri even consider that formation ?

I don't think there is a problem at JUVENTUS
I just think that players need more time to get comfortable with each other,
I trust on HERNANES and CUADRADO leadership

Yes, we can't drop cuadrado and hernanes at this point, cuz they were our pillars in the match vs Chievo.

salmano9 wrote:Yes, we can't drop cuadrado and hernanes at this point, cuz they were our pillars in the match vs Chievo.

Cuadrado is making beautiful runs with the ball and the fans seems to like him
but Hernanes is the underdog
Hernanes made some beautiful shots, and beautiful touches
is just that you cannot expect him to take the lead like Pirlo on his first game he need more time