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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:40 am

DeviAngel wrote:
Andrew_p wrote:
Luca wrote:


I like this formation
That left side looks so strong!
I would like to see some starting 11s that see Cuadrado starting. Cuadrado + Dybala + Pereyra.. that's 3 fast, young players

4-2-3-1 with them forming the front 3 behind either Mandzukic or Morata would be pretty amazing to see... kind of makes more for a 4-2-2-2 then a 4-2-3-1 though

I was thinking earlier today about a double pivot midfield with Marchisio and Pogba but I doubt Allegri even considers that.

Morata
Cuadrado Pereyra Dybala
Pogba Marchisio
Alex Sandro Chiellini Bonucci Lichtsteiner
Buffon

Similar to what City and Chelsea plays.


---------Pereyra----Marchisio---Pogba----
---------------Cuadrado----Dybala--
---------------------Morata---------

Something I wanna see Smile


one thing you and I can agree on, that is a nice formation with the players we have, as much as I fault Beppe, Allegri is also to blame for the 2 losses, fielding the formation you posted would be sex, kudos for once.

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Post by salmano9 Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:47 pm

I think after the first 2 matches in Serie A, we all agree that mandzu needs to be benched. Morata did more in the minutes he played imo.
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Post by dronte Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:20 pm

Yea but Morata was injured that's why he didn't play so far, if I remember well.

Mandzukic so far doesn't look so good, but remember, even Morata was kinda bad in the first opportunities he got. Then he exploded

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Post by DeviAngel Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:36 pm

Today we had a friendly. We won 3-1. Dybala 2x goals. Alex Sandro playe.
Lemina and Hernanes played too.
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Post by salmano9 Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:33 am

Who scored the 3rd? Do you have a link devi?
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Post by DeviAngel Fri Sep 04, 2015 1:27 am

As for the Roma match, Juve were abysmal. BUT, they were still only one miraculous save from Szczznyyzzz (?) away from drawing that match. To me that doesnt say Juve are in trouble, but instead tells me that Roma on their best day is only as good as 10 man Juve at their absolute worst. When this team kicks into gear and gets healthy, They will absolutely steamroll through the rest of Italy. Juve's "B" starting XI right now is probably the 2nd or 3rd best team in Italy on paper.

http://www.blackwhitereadallover.com/2015/9/3/9254095/juventus-summer-transfers-2015-dybala-alex-sandro-khedira-cuadrado

GREAT READ !
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Post by salmano9 Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:00 am

Fantastic. Great read.
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Post by DeviAngel Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:20 pm

SERIE A JUVENTUS Dybala FROM THE FIELD VINOVO / TURIN - The players of Juventus , not parties to the national and remained under the orders of Allegri, have played a friendly in Vinovo against Cherasco (Piedmont training amateur playing in Excellence)., winning 3-1. Great showman of the match was Paulo Dybala , author of two goals, while the third came from Alvaro Morata. The Juventus coach has tried a 4-3-1-2, where they highlighted the Brazilian Alex Sandro and French Lemina , who was given the task of director. Asamoah played 20 minutes, while he trained in part Marchisio , which will resume with the group next Tuesday.

According to the newspapers Lemina was great, sandro was phenomenal !
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Post by salmano9 Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:51 pm

There are some reports that lemina will play vs Chievo Smile I think he would, in order to save CM8.

Or he might play pereyra and hernanes, with pogba and sturaro.

TuttoJuve say that Dybala and morata may start Smile
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Post by salmano9 Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:52 pm

15:16 - ABSENT 13 NATIONAL - Today, Juventus will train in Vinovo without 13 National. In fact, they lack Buffon, Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini, Zaza, Lichtsteiner, Mandzukic, Pereyra, Pogba, Evra, Caceres, Rugani and Audero. While work available to Allegri: Neto, Morata, Dybala, Padoin, Sturaro, Cuadrado, Hernanes, Alex Sandro Lemina, Asamoah and Rubinho. These days the coach from Livorno will continue to prepare for the match against Chievo and can count on new purchases. This Saturday will be a newcomer in the field, in fact, Alex Sandro will own left flank to replace Evra will be disqualified. Against Chievo Marchisio could meet again, although it is possible that is preserved for Manchester City. In attack Morata and Dybala favorites seem to be holding against Chievo because you are training in Vinovo, while Mandzukic is national. The number 17 Juventus Saturday could rest ahead of the Champions League.
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Post by salmano9 Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:27 pm

Mandzu is really off form these days... It is weird that he hasn't scored in 4 matches in a row (including internationals). Croatia lost heavily to Norway today...
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Post by inderbaby Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:57 am

Mandzukic is a player that thrives in counter attacking football where there loads of crosses into the box! Also considering he has already peaked he is now in a state of steady decline however that is fine coz we should be playing Morata and Dybala together as that will become one of the best duo's in Europe. Also I think Cuadrado should play RB instead of Licht where teams just park the bus from the first minute.

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Post by salmano9 Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:52 pm

I think that it was a mistake to get lots of CFs rather than support strikers/ dybala tevez type of players. We are stuck with Morata zaza and mandzu now and only dybala who has the creativity. You could argue that morata can play as SS but he is better as the main striker just as he played last season with tevez behind him tracking back. It is hard to replace tevez with mandzu tbh. Two totally different types of players.

As for the formation VS Chievo,

Reports say:
Buffon; Sandro ChiellinI Bonnuci Lichtsteiner; pogba marchisio sturaro; hernanes; dybala morata.
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Post by inderbaby Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:04 pm

Pereyra should play instead of Sturaro!

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Post by salmano9 Wed Sep 09, 2015 9:58 pm

inderbaby wrote:Pereyra should play instead of Sturaro!

I agree on that, but maybe he is being saved for the Man City tie.
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Post by salmano9 Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:38 am

19:48 - Mandzukic FAVORITE ON MORATA - Juventus is in retreat to prepare for the match against Chievo. Massimiliano Allegri, tomorrow, will rely to 4-3-1-2: in door play Buffon. In defense space from right to left to Lichtsteiner, Barzagli, Bonucci and Alex Sandro. In midfield in the control will return to his sides play Marchisio Sturaro and Pogba. While Hernanes will move on the frontline. In attack it will Dybala that should be accompanied by Mandzukic. The number 17 seems favored Juventus of Morata.

Juventus (4-3-1-2): Buffon; Lichtsteiner, Barzagli, Bonucci, Alex Sandro; Sturaro, Marchisio, Pogba; Hernanes; Dybala, Mandzukic.
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Post by salmano9 Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:45 pm

13:20 - A MIDFIELD BACK MARCHISIO- Juventus, in the morning, he played finishing. Now the team is having lunch and then we will rest. Massimiliano Allegri, against Chievo, will rely to 4-3-1-2: in door play Buffon. In defense on the wing space Lichtsteiner and Alex Sandro, who Chiellini in the middle you can enjoy a turn off and in its place will play Barzagli. In partnering with the number 15 there will be Juventus Bonucci. In midfield, they will move Sturaro, Marchisio and Pogba, with Pereyra that will be behind the two strikers. In attack space Dybala and Morata.

11:20 - JOYFUL will point to 4-3-1-2 - Juventus is playing the morning finishing ahead of the clash against Chievo. Massimiliano Allegri will target 4-3-1-2: a door there will be Buffon. In defense of the right touch to Lichtsteiner, Barzagli amid space and Bonucci, while on the left there will be the debut of Alex Sandro. In midfield Allegri Marchisio finds himself, with him and act Sturaro Pogba. On the frontline, instead, Pereyra was in the lead on Hernanes. In attack the doubt remains on strike partner of Dybala, at the time, Morata seems favored over Mandzukic.


Juventus (4-3-1-2): Buffon; Lichtsteiner, Barzagli, Bonucci, Alex Sandro; Sturaro, Marchisio, Pogba; Pereyra; Dybala, Morata.
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Post by salmano9 Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:10 pm

9:50 - EDUCATION OFFICIAL JUVENTUS
JUVENTUS (4-3-1-2): Buffon, Caceres, Barzagli, Bonucci, Alex Sandro, Pereyra, Marchisio, Sturaro, Hernanes, Dybala, Morata.

Facilities: Neto, Audero, Lichtsteiner, Rugani, Chiellini, Padoin, Lemina, Pogba, Cuadrado, Zaza, Mandzukic
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:21 pm

3 pts the Great One has decreed it.

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Post by salmano9 Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:15 pm

We are playing ugly football... The grinta is gone.
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Post by djfawnz Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:32 pm

Please God, we have to win this!!!!
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Post by Cotes Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:32 pm

Damb....what a dagger to the heart
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Post by salmano9 Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:41 pm

@dj: We won't win this. It is really hard. The players are playing randomly hoping that Chievo make a mistake. There is no good team play.

I think that we need Conte back to instill the grinta back.
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Post by Cotes Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:45 pm

I agree with salmano...
It's like individuals just on a field in the same jersey...
Chievo actually has a game plan and the players are working as a unit
Sandro needs to get the crosses in early...
Pereyra and dybala also need to stop trying to beat their...just pass and move in space
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Post by salmano9 Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:37 pm

Bad first half. Better second half with cuadrado... Cuadrado is a game changer. We need to open play and be organised and have some teamwork... Really poor game for dybala. This juve is no longer the one we saw the last 4 seasons. It is like putting a bunch of new ingredients to make a new cake.
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Post by Luca Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:45 pm

We suck again

No but really, so many new players. New formations. A lot of changes.

It's going to take some time to settle everything down. I think Khedira can be a game changer, we really lack some composure in the midfield. He is experienced and talented, not as a regista but just as a presence.

Fraudba has been really disappointing this season. He was given the keys to the team and so far, he's failed in just about every imaginable way.

Loan Pirlo back to us in January = scudetto

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