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Post by RealGunner Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:00 pm

smh

Way to ruin the fun Auclair

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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:02 pm

since when is Auclair a ref on the transfer market, good journalist, but thats all
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Post by Adit Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:09 pm

when it comes to french transfers la equipe and rmc>>>


yanited fans now running around trying to save face now, in both martial deal and de gea deal rofl rofl

how woodward have deceived them
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Post by RealGunner Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:28 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:since when is Auclair a ref on the transfer market, good journalist, but thats all


Nah he is the most reliable guy when it comes to news from France.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:35 pm

It's awkward because he works for RMC, but RMC are giving different numbers. He is a terrific journalist, but he is an investigator, old school proper writer, not a transfer muppet. there are better peops at that than him.
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Post by RED Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:41 pm

Adit wrote:when it comes to french transfers la equipe and rmc>>>


yanited fans now running around trying to save face now, in both martial deal and de gea deal rofl rofl

how woodward have deceived them


You can believe what you want, I choose to believe what I just read.
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Post by sportsczy Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:47 pm

Martial is not a natural scorer? Now I know you guys have only been paying attention for less than a year. His natural scoring ability is what caused Monaco to pay 5 mil for a 17yo kid with no pro experience. What he isn't is a natural 9. He's more like Benz in how he approaches his position.
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Post by EL Patron Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:47 pm

Is this the surprise signing Van Gal was talking about Laughing
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Post by sportsczy Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:56 pm

Deschamps commented today on Martial... NT has let him go to Manchester for the medical. He also discussed the pressure that comes with being the most expensive French player ever... He just beat Zidane'a record.

The figure is 60 mil base and 20 mil in bonuses.
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Post by RealGunner Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:06 pm

Contradictory statement by Dan levy, another reliable french journo

"Martial fee is supposedly 50m euros + 30m in bonuses = up to 80m transfer fee for Monaco. Means Lyon to get around around 10m to start with."
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:13 pm

told ya RG, deal is 80 mil in value

Mourinho couldnt sign Stones, was told to go jogging by psg for Marquinhos, so turns around and sign some scrub  Djilobodji from Nantes.

This transfer window rofl
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Post by RealGunner Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:15 pm

Tbf in the end united can afford much more and it doesn't matter what the price is.


If Martial doesn't work out, they can just say "oh well" and ship him off back to ligue 1 and won't lose any sleep over it.
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Post by DeletedUser#1 Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:18 pm

Man Utd selling RVP, ADM and DDG in one window rofl , almost as badly club run as ussss

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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:28 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:told ya RG, deal is 80 mil in value

Mourinho couldnt sign Stones, was told to go jogging by psg for Marquinhos, so turns around and sign some scrub  Djilobodji from Nantes.

This transfer window rofl


Wenger was spot on.

There is more money (at PL clubs) than there are quality players to buy.

It's telling IMO that PL clubs in that situation choose to spend money just the same as if there were top players available, only on some random players.

Goes to show having to spend money is the main constant in PL club management, whether appropriate or not.

Wenger though :bow:
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Post by sk3ptical Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:35 pm

the new ronaldo :bow:
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Post by Sri Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:37 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:told ya RG, deal is 80 mil in value

Mourinho couldnt sign Stones, was told to go jogging by psg for Marquinhos, so turns around and sign some scrub  Djilobodji from Nantes.

This transfer window rofl


Wenger was spot on.

There is more money (at PL clubs) than there are quality players to buy.

It's telling IMO that PL clubs in that situation choose to spend money just the same as if there were top players available, only on some random players.

Goes to show having to spend money is the main constant in PL club management, whether appropriate or not.

Wenger though :bow:


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Post by sportsczy Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:41 pm

Man U is a publicly traded entity. As a result, they need to manage their growth prospects. In terms of market value for a public firm, the worst thing that can happen is for analysts to downgrade your growth potential. It massively impacts market value. So they lose more money by NOT spending money than overpaying IF they are in danger of getting their outlook revised

Woodward is thinking like a banker... And under this scenario, he's right. But it's a strategy that can cut both ways if the investments completely flop.
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Post by sportsczy Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:43 pm

The title.is wrong btw. The total is definitely 80 mil. Only variable is whether the bonus is 20 or 30 mil.
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Post by LeBéninois Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:48 pm

sportsczy wrote:Man U is a publicly traded entity. As a result, they need to manage their growth prospects. In terms of market value for a public firm, the worst thing that can happen is for analysts to downgrade your growth potential. It massively impacts market value. So they lose more money by NOT spending money than overpaying IF they are in danger of getting their outlook revised

Woodward is thinking like a banker... And under this scenario, he's right. But it's a strategy that can cut both ways if the investments completely flop.


Paying 50-80 millions ( whatev) is not the problem. It depends of what/who you get with that amount of money. I mean for that fee ( or a little more ) Man united could have get players such as Gotze, Kevin De bruyne, Reus, etc.. I know they needed a goalscorer but I wouldn't call Martial that , at least now.
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Post by Unique Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:53 pm

man u getting trolled when they didnt buy a striker. and now getting trolled when they have. you lot are a bunch of bastards. eco smile
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:58 pm

sportsczy wrote:Man U is a publicly traded entity. As a result, they need to manage their growth prospects. In terms of market value for a public firm, the worst thing that can happen is for analysts to downgrade your growth potential. It massively impacts market value. So they lose more money by NOT spending money than overpaying IF they are in danger of getting their outlook revised

Woodward is thinking like a banker... And under this scenario, he's right. But it's a strategy that can cut both ways if the investments completely flop.


So basically what we have here is the financial industry usurping common sense in football.

Well done Woody.
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Post by sportsczy Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:59 pm

LeBeninois.... That's from a football perspective. But just thinking in terms of public stock valuation, you just need to justify how the market is valuing you. Having cash sit idle is fine AS LONG AS your valuation is covered.

Man U may have been forced to pay dividends to shareholders if it hadn't invested the cash... And that's a whole other can of worms. Once you start paying dividends, you can't really stop.

Woodward is doing things that he's good at... He was.never hired for his football acumen.
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Post by Doc Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:03 pm

If Woodie Wood pecker wasn't, as you say, hired for his football acumen, who is actually making the football related decisions at Utd?
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Post by Unique Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:06 pm

Doc wrote:If Woodie Wood pecker wasn't, as you say, hired for his football acumen, who is actually making the football related decisions at Utd?
well it should be LVG.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:09 pm

Unique wrote:
Doc wrote:If Woodie Wood pecker wasn't, as you say, hired for his football acumen, who is actually making the football related decisions at Utd?
well it should be LVG.


Woody is chief executive though, technically he's van Gaal's boss no?
In any case I don't think a guy like that is qualified to run one of the world's biggest football clubs.
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Post by sportsczy Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:11 pm

The CEO of a public company cares about one thing and one thing only...  Stock price.  He oversees the overall strategy whose intent is to maximize shareholder value.  The nutts and bolts of it are delegated.
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