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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:29 am

McLewis wrote:Shooter was a 19 year old kid who went to Nevada (where it's legal to buy guns under the age of 21, it's illegal in California) and bought the gun used in this killing. He was of Italian-Iranian descent, his IG posts indicate he held white-supremacist views as well as holocaust denial.

One of those he killed was just 6 years old.

This is a textbook reason for having federal gun laws. The states have failed to protect people from shit like this. Now the federal gov't needs to step in.

Of course, the NRA-controlled GOP Senate won't let that happen. It took a force of nature (read: John Stewart) to get them to pass legislation for 9/11 first responders.

We're fucked.


I'm surprised this is not a bigger deal in the news cycle. Kinda shows how much we have internalized it.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:58 am

Lex wrote:An Iranian white supremacist. I've heard it all now.


I've heard that before

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Munich_shooting

and also

http://www.goallegacy.net/u3232

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Post by Freeza Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:11 am

Iranians consider themselves to be pretty white from my experiences, so not that far fetched.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:16 am

Freeza wrote:Iranians consider themselves to be pretty white from my experiences, so not that far fetched.


Also, a thing like white suprematism doesn't follow logic or common sense, and immigrants or descendants of immigrants may in some weird cases identify with a suprematist view of the group they try to belong to, or other bizarre alliances.
Serbs in Austria voting for the far-right FPÖ, for example, as they're anti-Muslim
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Post by Freeza Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:39 am

Voting against your own self interest and even security is not something new. Happens a lot everywhere.
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Post by Myesyats Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:40 am

So why would a white supremacist shoot up a Garlic festival? Wasn't it mostly white people there?
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Post by M99 Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:00 pm

The term Aryan was originally used for Indo-Iranians actually.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:25 pm

M99 wrote:The term Aryan was originally used for Indo-Iranians actually.
caucasian comes form "people that emigrated from caucasus" . The caucasus region is far closer to Iran than anywhere in Europe.

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Post by McLewis Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:38 pm

Correct. His motive is currently unknown. All we know about him comes from his social media presence.
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Post by Myesyats Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:54 pm

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Not gun violence but these cops are back on duty..... What the hell America
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Post by Myesyats Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:33 am

20 people killed and 26 injured in El Paso shooting, Texas governor says

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/03/us/el-paso-shooting/index.html

Another dumb, education-deprived white supremacist.


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Post by futbol Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:03 am

Myesyats wrote:20 people killed and 26 injured in El Paso shooting, Texas governor says

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/03/us/el-paso-shooting/index.html

Another dumb, education-deprived white supremacist.




And there is ANOTHER one in Ohio with 9 dead and 16 wounded.

Third world country.

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Post by Myesyats Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:22 am

Tbh I'd feel safer going on vacation to Syria than to the US lol
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Post by RealGunner Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:41 am

futbol wrote:
Myesyats wrote:20 people killed and 26 injured in El Paso shooting, Texas governor says

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/03/us/el-paso-shooting/index.html

Another dumb, education-deprived white supremacist.




And there is ANOTHER one in Ohio with 9 dead and 16 wounded.

Third world country.


It really is a failed 1st world country.

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Post by Firenze Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:33 pm

May have said it before, but I remember kinda being conditioned as a kid by TV and what not, that the US was the GOAT country. The land of the free, better than everywhere else. I thought, I'd love to live there when I grow up. Then I grew up. Wouldn't even feel safe visiting for a week. They'll never change.
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Post by VivaStPauli Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:39 pm

Those white domestic terrorists still being called lone wolves or something instead of terrorists because they're not brown? I don't really follow the shooting-news-cycle anymore because it's too sad...
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Post by Unique Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:20 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:Those white domestic terrorists still being called lone wolves or something instead of terrorists because they're not brown? I don't really follow the shooting-news-cycle anymore because it's too sad...
if everyone of the victims had been white Americans you wouldn't have posted that.
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Post by Clutch Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:03 pm

Unique wrote:
VivaStPauli wrote:Those white domestic terrorists still being called lone wolves or something instead of terrorists because they're not brown? I don't really follow the shooting-news-cycle anymore because it's too sad...
if everyone of the victims had been white Americans you wouldn't have posted that.
and if the shooter wasnt white, you wouldn't be defending this rhetoric

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Post by Unique Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:18 pm

Clutch wrote:
Unique wrote:
VivaStPauli wrote:Those white domestic terrorists still being called lone wolves or something instead of terrorists because they're not brown? I don't really follow the shooting-news-cycle anymore because it's too sad...
if everyone of the victims had been white Americans you wouldn't have posted that.
and if the shooter wasnt white, you wouldn't be defending this rhetoric
can you show me where I defended anything
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Post by Clutch Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:46 pm

Unique wrote:
Clutch wrote:
Unique wrote: if everyone of the victims had been white Americans you wouldn't have posted that.
and if the shooter wasnt white, you wouldn't be defending this rhetoric
can you show me where I defended anything
Doesn't take a genius to know you're victimizing domestic white terrorism with that comment

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Post by Unique Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:23 pm

Clutch wrote:
Unique wrote:
Clutch wrote: and if the shooter wasnt white, you wouldn't be defending this rhetoric
can you show me where I defended anything
Doesn't take a genius to know you're victimizing domestic white terrorism with that comment
no it don't take a genius. It takes a lefty twat.
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Post by VivaStPauli Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:24 pm

Unique wrote:
VivaStPauli wrote:Those white domestic terrorists still being called lone wolves or something instead of terrorists because they're not brown? I don't really follow the shooting-news-cycle anymore because it's too sad...
if everyone of the victims had been white Americans you wouldn't have posted that.


This is incredibly dumb, offensive, insensitive, and off the mark, even for you.
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Post by Freeza Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:25 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:
Unique wrote:
VivaStPauli wrote:Those white domestic terrorists still being called lone wolves or something instead of terrorists because they're not brown? I don't really follow the shooting-news-cycle anymore because it's too sad...
if everyone of the victims had been white Americans you wouldn't have posted that.


This is incredibly dumb, offensive, insensitive, and off the mark, even for you.


I think it's pretty par for the course
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Post by Unique Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:30 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:
Unique wrote:
VivaStPauli wrote:Those white domestic terrorists still being called lone wolves or something instead of terrorists because they're not brown? I don't really follow the shooting-news-cycle anymore because it's too sad...
if everyone of the victims had been white Americans you wouldn't have posted that.


This is incredibly dumb, offensive, insensitive, and off the mark, even for you.
really. So would you call Harris and klebold terrorists.  The guy was not part of any terror group he was another crazy fucker that went crazy with a gun. You called him a terrorist because of the victims not for the crime. Like I said before if he had shot a bunch of red neck white Christians you would not have called it a terrorist attack.
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Post by Unique Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:33 pm

Freeza wrote:
VivaStPauli wrote:
Unique wrote: if everyone of the victims had been white Americans you wouldn't have posted that.


This is incredibly dumb, offensive, insensitive, and off the mark, even for you.


I think it's pretty par for the course
can you give me some information about the terrorist group that did this. Like how many members in the group. What country's they are bombing. How many victims over the last 20 years that sort of thing.
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Post by Freeza Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:33 pm

He had a political motive. He wanted to spread fear against Hispanic people so they won't come to the US and so the ones already there are afraid to go out. It's the most clear cut act of terrorism you could ever want.

If a muslim would have shot white or christian people to spread fear, which has happened before, we would also call it terrorism, as Viva has done before.

You're just a racist with a 2nd grade reading comprehension.
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