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Post by FennecFox7 Sat Dec 05, 2015 8:10 pm

I have an honest question guys.

Are we overrating certain players for the sake of the hype at times? I'll give an example to clear any confusion

Jamie Vardy - Came from almost non professional football and is scoring for fun

Riyad Mahrez - played in the 2nd division of french football and is now tearing it up

Chris Smalling is a good mention too

Meanwhile the likes of Hazard, the so-called great players of the premier league are showing their true colors.

I feel like these lesser known players should be scouted more often. They are out there, they're cheap, and they'll die for the team, as opposed to some self-righteous primadona whos been overrated by the media.

As a former semi player (stopped to focus on my studies.. footy in the US is complete crap), I can tell you the actual gap in individual quality between the bottom and the top is not big.. its much smaller then you think.

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Post by El Gunner Sat Dec 05, 2015 8:53 pm

Pirloisjesus wrote:Lol at Chelsea section, the place is less crowded than Etihad stadium at the moment rofl

Just my mate Kick posting transfer rumours rofl

Funny how they split when shit hits the fan but us Arsenal fans have taken that shit right in the face, through the eyes, ears and right in the nostrils for many years.
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Post by Art Morte Sat Dec 05, 2015 9:22 pm

FennecFox7 wrote:I have an honest question guys.

Are we overrating certain players for the sake of the hype at times?


Of course that happens. It's all about consistency. Hazard, for example, has done enough to show he belongs in the top level. Someone like Michu was a one season wonder. Some players, like Diego Costa, are in the grey area, have they done enough to be considered certainly good or have they just been lucky. But it's just normal that players get hyped up, but only time will tell who actually was worth the hype. Obviously not everyone will be.

As for someone like Vardy, he needs to do this again next season to be considered truly good. I mean, he scored 5 goals last season, in 34 games.
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Post by Katy Perry Sat Dec 05, 2015 9:32 pm

El Gunner wrote:
Pirloisjesus wrote:Lol at Chelsea section, the place is less crowded than Etihad stadium at the moment rofl

Just my mate Kick posting transfer rumours rofl

Funny how they split when shit hits the fan but us Arsenal fans have taken that shit right in the face, through the eyes, ears and right in the nostrils for many years.

Tbh I haven't posted much in the Chelsea section this year even when we won the league last season because I simply lost that interest of posting daily on goallegacy altho I do log to lurk from times to times.

Plus this season, meh. It just feels like repeating myself over and over again
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Post by RealGunner Sat Dec 05, 2015 10:33 pm

Knew Shaqiri was legit ffs. One of my most important players on fifa15 for bayern before they sold him Sad
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Post by M99 Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:31 pm

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Post by Red Alert Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:19 am

^ Please tell me that's not edited. rofl

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City losing to Barcelona yet again. Will Pellegrini last the season? Proud
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Post by Red Alert Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:24 am

RED wrote:We have a crisis- we can't score to save our lives.

Doesn't help that the clown got rid of Chicha and loaned out Wilson.

Absolute fraud.


Could be worse. You could be Chelsea. :whistle:
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Post by RedOranje Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:10 am

Getting a bit worried that McClaren is going to react to their current predicament by going for all-out defense. He's already talked about changing up the starting XI so I wouldn't be surprised to see 6 or 7 defenders with a bank of 4 just ahead of a back 5. As good as we've played away from home under Klopp, it's come from having space to exploit when the home sides attacked. Without that, we could potentially be frustrated as we still struggle to break down sides and create goals when the onus is on us, as seen against Swansea.
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Post by Helmer Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:34 am

Woke up to see the results rofl
ManCity rofl
Chelsea and Mourinho rofl
Spurs and ManUtd Laughing
Arsenal Proud they are literally getting the title served to to Emirates !

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Post by mr-r34 Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:50 am

RedOranje wrote:Getting a bit worried that McClaren is going to react to their current predicament by going for all-out defense. He's already talked about changing up the starting XI so I wouldn't be surprised to see 6 or 7 defenders with a bank of 4 just ahead of a back 5. As good as we've played away from home under Klopp, it's come from having space to exploit when the home sides attacked. Without that, we could potentially be frustrated as we still struggle to break down sides and create goals when the onus is on us, as seen against Swansea.


Thats why we need an early goal, hopefully we can break them down, will be a good test if its 11 behind the ball today.
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Post by Helmer Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:02 am

mr-r34 wrote:
RedOranje wrote:Getting a bit worried that McClaren is going to react to their current predicament by going for all-out defense. He's already talked about changing up the starting XI so I wouldn't be surprised to see 6 or 7 defenders with a bank of 4 just ahead of a back 5. As good as we've played away from home under Klopp, it's come from having space to exploit when the home sides attacked. Without that, we could potentially be frustrated as we still struggle to break down sides and create goals when the onus is on us, as seen against Swansea.


Thats why we need an early goal, hopefully we can break them down, will be a good test if its 11 behind the ball today.

I would say in our games, it doesnt matter which side the first goal goes IN, our players always play better after the first goal Laughing

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:55 pm

RedOranje wrote:Getting a bit worried that McClaren is going to react to their current predicament by going for all-out defense. He's already talked about changing up the starting XI so I wouldn't be surprised to see 6 or 7 defenders with a bank of 4 just ahead of a back 5. As good as we've played away from home under Klopp, it's come from having space to exploit when the home sides attacked. Without that, we could potentially be frustrated as we still struggle to break down sides and create goals when the onus is on us, as seen against Swansea.


Laughing

We can't defend, regardless if we have 2 defenders or twenty. This is good thing for you as he's benching all our good players ( not many of them mind) for defenders just to sit back and watch wave after wave of attack go through them.
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Post by RealGunner Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:56 pm

Leiceister's squad is currently drinking beer in Copenhagen dressed as turtles

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Post by Art Morte Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:21 pm

Ranieri's title-winning training methods :bow:
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Post by Art Morte Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:23 pm

mr-r34 wrote:Thats why we need an early goal, hopefully we can break them down, will be a good test if its 11 behind the ball today.

Yeah, this is true, it's been our long-time problem - pretty much ever since Suarez left - that we've struggled to break down ultra-defensive teams. We're already great on the counter under Klopp, but this is the real test, can we score against teams who play for the draw.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:18 pm

How many goalless draws have Man Utd played in all games/competitions this season?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:19 pm

Benching our best players Laughing

So hilariously bad, i'll be surprised if it's less than 5 today.
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Post by Art Morte Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:37 pm

I'm glad to see Ayoze isn't starting.

But Mole, our Lucas Allen Milner midfield isn't exactly scary. I think it'll be tight.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:38 pm

Doesn't matter, you can just hoof it to Benteke and instantly get results Laughing
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Post by iftikhar Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:40 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Benching our best players Laughing

So hilariously bad, i'll be surprised if it's less than 5 today.
Stop jinxing you pos Clubber
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:43 pm

I'm not lol, couldn't care less about it lol. I have watched like a dozen games in over 2 years lol.

Just telling how it is, Hans keeps more of an interest in Newcastle than i do Laughing
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Post by RealGunner Sun Dec 06, 2015 4:08 pm

Liverpool have averaged 6.9km more and 84 sprints more per game under Jurgen Klopp than Brendan Rodgers in the top-flight this season.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Dec 06, 2015 4:18 pm

Newcastle got this
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Dec 06, 2015 4:25 pm

This game is mediocrity incarnate
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