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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by Nivash on Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:46 pm

Why should these deals be public knowledge if the clubs aren't public institutions?

Clubs are largely private entities, so these deals don't need to be any more transparent than the trading terms between P&G and Walmart.

I enjoy reading them as a matter of interest, but I certainly don't think that the general public has any right to intimate knowledge of the commercial dealings between clubs.

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Post by free_cat on Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:35 pm

De Gea also was going to earn 11 milion GROSS with Madrid, seems like this is the average salary for a starter at Madrid, and then you want the star player to earn 20 milion net. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

I enjoy this leaks a lot and will laugh my ass of when Messi's agreement is leaked and he is off course not earning 20+ net milion.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:51 pm

Completely agreed with Nivash

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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by rincon on Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:48 pm

Agree with Nivash, we don't have a right to know these. But its pretty cool, I dig it.
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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by free_cat on Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:52 pm

James Rodriguez agreement:

https://footballleaks2015.wordpress.com/2016/02/15/real-madrid-james-rodriguez/

He "only" earns 7,75 milion euros per season GROSS. (It's always gross).

Probably earns so much less than Kroos because he didn't lease the 50% of his image rights to Evil Madrid, but we can only speculate as the full agreement has not been leaked, only the part sent to the RFEF.


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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by Hapless_Hans on Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:53 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:pls stop.

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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by Lucifer on Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:59 pm

Turn around this is a bait. This is a bait. you are already docked to 75.
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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by rincon on Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:59 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:pls stop.
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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by free_cat on Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:00 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:pls stop.


Isn't this thread to share and talk about leaks?
Thought I shared the James one which is surprising as he earns so much less than Kroos considering their status and transfer fee. Can't I take the opportunity to note that salarys are always gross?

If I was really going at it again, I would point out that it is impossible that Messi earns around 7 times what James Rodríguez earns.

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Post by rincon on Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:04 pm

Fair enough.

It makes sense for Kroos to earn more though. He came as a league, cup, cl and world cup winner from Bayern. He was always gonna earn more than a kid, that while incredibly talented, hasn't accomplished that much. And was also moving from Monaco so this was staright desicion from him. Kroos could very well have stayed at Bayern with a huge salary and won tons of titles. Madrid needed to sweeten the deal.
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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by Hapless_Hans on Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:11 pm

@free_cat wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:pls stop.


Isn't this thread to share and talk about leaks?
Thought I shared the James one which is surprising as he earns so much less than Kroos considering their status and transfer fee. Can't I take the opportunity to note that salarys are always gross?

If I was really going at it again, I would point out that it is impossible that Messi earns around 7 times what James Rodríguez earns.


No you're right. Thanks for contributing and sharing links about the leaks.

As for the 7.75m, it's maybe less than you'd expect because of the high transfer fee, but it's actually decent wage for a young star at a top club. Thiago probably got similar wages when he joined us, Douglas Costa surely's not getting more either.

And similar as at Barca, some players have to be on modest wages for the club to be able to afford the megastars their crazy money.

The 'pls stop' only served to remind you to not keep digging your hole deeper, you know what I'm talking about.

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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by The Demon of Carthage on Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:14 pm

So the first contract leaked was between Spurs and Madrid. The second, and failed, one leaked was between United and Madrid. The third was between Monaco and Madrid.

Looks like the whistleblower is from Madrid.

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Post by Lucifer on Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:16 pm

Or Barca hmm
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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by Hapless_Hans on Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:18 pm

@The Demon of Carthage wrote:So the first contract leaked was between Spurs and Madrid. The second, and failed, one leaked was between United and Madrid. The third was between Monaco and Madrid.

Looks like the whistleblower is from Madrid.


I was wondering the same. Özil's transfer contract was also leaked, after all. Bale, Kroos, De Gea, Özil, James.

I'm sure they've got loads of documents and maybe are releasing high profile ones (and it doesn't get more high profile than Real) to get attention to their site, but it sure comes across as if someone involved with Real's dealings, no idea how directly or indirectly, has been, or is, feeding them stuff.

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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by The Demon of Carthage on Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:36 pm

Definitely. It's very difficult to trace it back to the source from where we stand as powerless fans.

At first, I thought about their agents. But only James and De Gea share the same one. Then, I thought about the other clubs. But Real Madrid is the only constant in that equation of variables.

From the looks of it, somebody from Real Madrid must be feeding them, directly or indirectly, intentionally or unintentionally(hacking), some stuff.

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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by Hapless_Hans on Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:39 pm

What I wonder is, through how many hands do such documents actually pass?
What would your estimate be, how many people actually have access to these documents, the actual finished contracts, at each club involved? A handful? 10-20?
I have no idea, but I'm sure they're not just pinned to the cafeteria wall.

Also of course, maybe someone at the federation, RFEF, or FIFA, no? These documents have to be handed in there too, as copies at least?
In doubt, guess it's always the IT guys or server admins lol.

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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:45 pm

The leaks are coming from a Portuguese website and are mostly about Real Madrid. Do we know anyone in Portugual who is known for being a RM mole?

http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/iker-casillas-518800.jpg

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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by Hapless_Hans on Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:56 pm

lol BC Laughing

good thinking

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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by The Demon of Carthage on Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:25 pm

I doubt, though I wouldn't completely rule out, that the federation is behind this. They have access to every single contract of every single player in the league. If it was truly somebody from the federation, all the contracts, or at least Real Madrid's, would've been leaked by now.

No. This one has a very clear pattern. Real Madrid seems to be their main target for the time being. Kroos, James, Bale, Alonso, Ozil, De Gea.

There's no apparent thread binding them all together.

They are Portuguese working with Russian servers. Right now, I incline toward them being hackers. But in this day and age, you have enemies, blackmailers and whistleblowers everywhere. Somebody from Real Madrid must be feeding them something.

Like you said Hans, the list can be narrowed down to only those who have physical copies of the contracts. They're not that many. If it's not them, it's somebody they know.

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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by M99 on Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:40 pm

@The Demon of Carthage wrote:So the first contract leaked was between Spurs and Madrid. The second, and failed, one leaked was between United and Madrid. The third was between Monaco and Madrid.

Looks like the whistleblower is from Madrid.


My money's on Arbeloa.

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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:27 pm

Spoiler:
http://estaticos04.marca.com/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2016/02/19/14558723783037.jpg
Anti-Barca clause in ADM's contract

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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by Cruijf on Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:43 pm

Not suprising tbh Laughing

Not sure if this has been addressed before, but why are all these contracts in English?

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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by RealGunner on Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:00 pm

Because English is the superior language
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:00 pm

Also because it's fake.

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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by Kaladin on Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:07 pm

@RealGunner wrote:Because English is the superior language


https://embed.gyazo.com/0e7b2c5723faeadb2902c29e66ab85c3.png

*heavy breathing*

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Re: Football Leaks and their revelations

Post by RealGunner on Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:29 pm

rofl
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