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Post by zizzle Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:52 pm

Hand us the Higauin kitty and Icardi is yours Proud

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Post by urbaNRoots Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:59 pm

Mkhitaryan from Dortmund to Manchester United
Ibrahimovic from PSG to Manchester United
Pogba from Juventus to Manchester United
Balotelli from Liverpool to... nevermind

Lukaku and Matuidi will move soon aswell

Raiola is a happy man rn.
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Post by Firenze Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:18 pm

Think we'll sign Matuidi too tbh.

Wonder how much Raiola is worth. Man is a shrewd businessman.
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Post by S Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:35 pm

Looks like Gabigol is next Laughing
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Post by S Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:44 pm

Firenze wrote:Think we'll sign Matuidi too tbh.

Wonder how much Raiola is worth. Man is a shrewd businessman.


Signing Matuinho = Pogba DM confirmed rofl I would say Matuidi is the single big reason France havent been able to get the best out of Pogba.

Congrats on your 170M DM. First of its kind. Proud
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Post by juve_gigi Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:19 pm

Robespierre wrote:According Sky Italy , Napoli will insist to convince Inter for Icardi with a new bid because they want also the Argentinian over the Polish


Apparently Wanda has been promised a prominent role in De Laurentiis's upcoming movie. That should clinch the deal...
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Post by sportsczy Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:10 pm

It would be good news for France if Man U sign Matuidi tbh... Pogba would get used to playing on the right. The biggest issue for France is that Pogba doesn't have time to get acclimated to that role since he never plays it. He can do it no problem. Just needs time there. Ibra dezones so much that Pogba will have plenty of chances to make runs.

It will be interesting. Completely different role for Pogba.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:18 pm

Nah the biggest issue is he's not allowed the freedom and it's a waste of time lol.

No point trying to think it would work lol.
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Post by Luca Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:27 pm

sportsczy wrote:It would be good news for France if Man U sign Matuidi tbh... Pogba would get used to playing on the right. The biggest issue for France is that Pogba doesn't have time to get acclimated to that role since he never plays it. He can do it no problem. Just needs time there. Ibra dezones so much that Pogba will have plenty of chances to make runs.

It will be interesting. Completely different role for Pogba.


I somewhat agree but signing a player for a world record fee only to not play him in his favourable position is a bit off

Then again, you have Rooney running around in the midfield like prime Xavi for god knows what reason. If Higuain decides he wants to play as a left back, I'll let you know how quickly that fee is rescinded.

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Post by sportsczy Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:46 pm

Pogba can do it though... no problem. His issue with France was that he was more concerned with helping Rami defensively early on... and then Sissoko was having a lot of success making runs so he let him continue. He sacrificed for the team. It's to his credit really. BUT, i blame Deschamps for not recognizing that Pogba needs to be freed up as opposed to using him as a guy who compensates for everyone else. Granted, he tried to put Matuidi on the right and it was a disaster. He didn't have to play Matuidi though... he could have easily played Kante on the right and benched Matuidi. But politically, that wasn't going to go over well with the French fans. That's on the manager.

At Man U, even on the right, I expect to be freed up to do his thing.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:53 pm

It's a result of playing so deep, doesn't matter if he's on the left or the right he's going to be restricted.

That won't change for any other manager or any other team if he's forced to play there, he needs to play in a midfield 3 where there's at least one guy doing the dirty work for him like at Juventus.

Delusional to think it will be alright if he's forced to play in that position.
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Post by Luca Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:55 pm

I think it will be alright but you certainly will not be witnessing a player worthy of a world record fee. If you're paying that kind of money I really don't understand not trying to get the best out of the player. Pogba in a double pivot = not the best from him.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:08 pm

From a footballing standpoint, joining Utd is obviously a really stupid idea from Pogba. They are a club that's going nowhere fast.
He should be joining Real, but then United are overpaying so hard, guess these are wages he can't refuse
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:14 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:From a footballing standpoint, joining Utd is obviously a really stupid idea from Pogba. They are a club that's going nowhere fast.
He should be joining Real, but then United are overpaying so hard, guess these are wages he can't refuse


Lol.

Funny that people can't see the reality, if he joins then they clearly will be going somewhere fast.

Thinking a club that can spend 140m on one player is going nowhere is just ridiculously hilarious.

A team with Pogba, Zlatan, Shaw, Smalling, Darmian, De Gea, Mkhitaryan and Martial in it is going somewhere and it isn't backwards lol.
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Post by Robespierre Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:26 pm

juve_gigi wrote:
Robespierre wrote:According Sky Italy , Napoli will insist to convince Inter for Icardi with a new bid because they want also the Argentinian over the Polish


Apparently Wanda has been promised a prominent role in De Laurentiis's upcoming movie. That should clinch the deal...

This is because Napoli is a circus
The De Laurentiis "movies" are a trash
Anyway if we are coherent with what we said so far, they can also offer the moon to Icardi \ Wanda ... but we decide.
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Post by Robespierre Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:28 pm

sportsczy wrote:It would be good news for France if Man U sign Matuidi tbh... Pogba would get used to playing on the right. The biggest issue for France is that Pogba doesn't have time to get acclimated to that role since he never plays it. He can do it no problem. Just needs time there. Ibra dezones so much that Pogba will have plenty of chances to make runs.

It will be interesting. Completely different role for Pogba.


Your opinion about Tolisso? Napoli are going to pay him much
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Post by S Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:29 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:From a footballing standpoint, joining Utd is obviously a really stupid idea from Pogba. They are a club that's going nowhere fast.
He should be joining Real, but then United are overpaying so hard, guess these are wages he can't refuse


I still think Real is where he ends up at.
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Post by sportsczy Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:30 pm

Vieira played very low for Arsenal but managed to pick his spots and nobody is going to ever say that he wasn't hugely impactful. Could he have been more attacking like Pogba was at Juve? Of course. But Arsenal needed him to play that relay role mostly. They already have Pires, Henry, Bergkamp, Ljungberg, Reyes, etc. on the attack.

Pogba just has to get used to it. He will. His first couple of years at Juve, Vidal was the more attacking CM and it didn't bother Pogba much. In fact, I preferred him when he was a little lower. He played simpler.
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Post by sportsczy Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:31 pm

Tolisso has talent. He had a rough year though last season after a very promising one the year before. He could be a very good pickup at DM.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:32 pm

Now he has a taste for it though

The dabs, the attention, the wonder goals, the Number 10. Ain't no way he happily sacrifices the limelight for long. If he was that much of a team player in the first place he'd just ask for a pay rise here and stay with a superior team.
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Post by S Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:32 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:From a footballing standpoint, joining Utd is obviously a really stupid idea from Pogba. They are a club that's going nowhere fast.
He should be joining Real, but then United are overpaying so hard, guess these are wages he can't refuse


Lol.

Funny that people can't see the reality, if he joins then they clearly will be going somewhere fast.

Thinking a club that can spend 140m on one player is going nowhere is just ridiculously hilarious.

A team with Pogba, Zlatan, Shaw, Smalling, Darmian, De Gea, Mkhitaryan and Martial in it is going somewhere and it isn't backwards lol.


They're going to be relevant either way but this Man U team is very eerily reminding me of early 2000s Madrid's team of galacticos that garnered a lot of hype but dint achieve much on a sporting level.
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Post by sportsczy Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:35 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Now he has a taste for it though

The dabs, the attention, the wonder goals, the Number 10. Ain't no way he happily sacrifices the limelight for long. If he was that much of a team player in the first place he'd just ask for a pay rise here and stay with a superior team.

How do you know he didn't? It's not the pay raise only though. He gets 20% of the transfer fee that Juve get + 50% of Raiola's fees according to rumors. So a big transfer like this may put 40 mil in his pocket aside from the wages. He can't turn away from that.
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Post by S Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:37 pm

sportsczy wrote:He gets 20% of the transfer fee that Juve

where do you get these rumors ? Next thing you're going tell me is you have a 20% stake in the transfer fees as well Laughing
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:38 pm

You can't honestly tell me the Pogba of today looks like he's going to sit back and smile whilst half of his team get more chances to be in the limelight than he does.

No way he happily takes up a conservative role. Plodding along and keeping it simple. If he's not given most of the freedom he's accustomed to having now then he's going to throw a tantrum. Especially when the media do what the media does and blame him despite being played in the wrong way for all the failings because of the price tag.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:44 pm

sportsczy wrote:
Tomwin Lannister wrote:Now he has a taste for it though

The dabs, the attention, the wonder goals, the Number 10. Ain't no way he happily sacrifices the limelight for long. If he was that much of a team player in the first place he'd just ask for a pay rise here and stay with a superior team.

How do you know he didn't? It's not the pay raise only though. He gets 20% of the transfer fee that Juve get + 50% of Raiola's fees according to rumors. So a big transfer like this may put 40 mil in his pocket aside from the wages. He can't turn away from that.



How come we have 'rumours' about the finer details in Pogbas contract such as percentages of transfer fees, but you assume some big news such as Pogba rejecting a contract wouldn't have surfaced?


If your percentages are true, then they sure as hell would have reported any rejected contract offers too. No way that goes under the radar but all of these percentages got leaked.

Pick one of the other imo.
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Post by S Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:47 pm

GL has a 20% stake in the transfer fees as well. Hope we can all share it equally (:
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