2018-19 Club Coefficient Will Include Historic Merit In The New Formula

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Post by nasir6371 Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:53 pm

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From 2011-12 to 2015-16 and is based on current form [...] Milan in 25th place in Europe.[...] After the new co-efficients have been calculated, over the same period. Milan are now ninth. And what did Milan actually achieve in that five-season spell to warrant this 16-place leap? Nothing.

Absolutely disgraceful  :facepalm:

Also up 13 spots under the new co-efficient system are Liverpool — from 35th to 22nd, despite never having won the Premier League, or a European trophy since 2005. Celtic have risen 16 slots.

The big fallers? Well, that's not hard to work out, either. All those smaller clubs that have had the temerity to be successful recently, with new money. Villarreal, down 14 places; Manchester City, 11th to 16th; Paris Saint-Germain, seventh to 10th; Napoli, 17th to 20th; Atletico Madrid, down one; Athletic Bilbao, down eight.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:34 pm

Bullshit. They also make more money now because coefficients is one of the criteria for payout.


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Post by nasir6371 Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:56 pm

Currently for the PL money payout is based on where you finished the previous season. But in 18-19 historic nonsense will be a factored in.

Regardless of similar results United can finish 4th and still make more than the team the finished 1-3rd unless its Liverpool rofl rofl rofl
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:11 am

Why did the other PL teams decide to agree to that? scratch
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Post by McAgger Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:02 am

Get in my United brothers. Let's laugh at the other poverty PL clubs Laughing Proud

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Post by windkick Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:30 am

I hate this new format.
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Post by dostoevsky Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:16 am

It's a shocking system. Failing to reward those who have had recent European success will not help to improve the competition nor will the questionable method of distributing winnings.

That being said, got immense pleasure from reading the article. I haven't seen such anger on a page since the days of cyberman. Laughing
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Post by rwo power Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:37 am

It looks as if at least the medium to smaller leagues want to try and take some action as this decision went through when the UEFA was pretty much leader-less and others but the ECA were not really asked.
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Post by Art Morte Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:12 pm

It is moronic to add this historical merit thing, but that's what popularity of football (read: the money in it) leads to. The historically big clubs are the money-makers in the CL, mostly thanks to plastic fans. A Liverpool v Milan match is simply going to attract bigger interest than Napoli v Mönchenblahblah.
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Post by rwo power Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:21 pm

Borussia Mönchengladbach actually have historical merit, too :coffee:
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Post by Lucifer Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:34 pm

Really hate when people deliberately misspell the other team names, i mean how hard is to write Monchenbenoit.

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Post by Art Morte Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:40 pm

Shut up, Pussifer, mine was möch better.
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Post by Lucifer Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:59 pm

Someone doesn't agree with u, Farte!




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Post by zigra Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:04 pm

Looking at a 5 year spell is completely arbitrary as well so once again I don't see a problem with the new system.
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Post by M99 Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:59 pm

Retarded new system. UEFA just wants more money as these historic clubs will attract more viewers.
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Post by zigra Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:20 pm

M99 wrote:Retarded new system. UEFA just wants more money as these historic clubs will attract more viewers.

And that's wrong because
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Post by Kaladin Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:26 pm

Its a great idea, i approve
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Post by Harmonica Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:34 pm

It's the same in awards, Fakenaldo has most fans so they gift him the most awards, team and individual. Uefa is just bunch of money hungry cnts who are destroying football.
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Post by zizzle Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:15 pm

Any idea how is the new coefficient is calculated and how much weight "historical merit" counts for?
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Post by Glory Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:11 pm

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The big fallers? Well, that's not hard to work out, either. All those smaller clubs that have had the temerity to be successful recently, with new money. Villarreal, down 14 places; Manchester City, 11th to 16th; Paris Saint-Germain, seventh to 10th; Napoli, 17th to 20th; Atletico Madrid, down one; Athletic Bilbao, down eight.

Laughing


What were you guys expecting anyway ? Your fans fail to show up at Etihad intentionally on European nights and boo CL anthem on a consistent basis, so much to the extent Poop is now forced to beg to your lot to fill the seats. Laughing
No wonder the UCL bigwigs are pissed at least in city's case.

Whereas in a Liverpool's, Man U's or  or Milan's case regardless the quality of football on display they know fans will throng the stands cos of our fanbase. After all these guys are greedy business minded bleeps (barring Gil of course Proud ) and if they find their investment aint bringing enough profit they are bound to take drastic measures such as this.

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Post by M99 Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:28 pm

zigra wrote:
M99 wrote:Retarded new system. UEFA just wants more money as these historic clubs will attract more viewers.

And that's wrong because


it does not reward recent performances by club?

Wonder where Nottingham Forest and Aston Villa fall in rankings.
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Post by sportsczy Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:02 pm

Typical European crap...  spend so much time reveling in their tradition and history that we completely forget about progress.

Instead of making everyone compete harder... let's make people feel entitled Laughing
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Post by zigra Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:12 pm

M99 wrote:
zigra wrote:
M99 wrote:Retarded new system. UEFA just wants more money as these historic clubs will attract more viewers.

And that's wrong because


it does not reward recent performances by club?

Wonder where Nottingham Forest and Aston Villa fall in rankings.

Why is rewarding recent performance important? We're not talking about a sportsman who at some point won't be able to perform anymore. Clubs can and do change all the time. Why reward such an arbitrary time frame like 5 years?
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Post by nasir6371 Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:37 pm

zigra wrote:
Why is rewarding recent performance important? We're not talking about a sportsman who at some point won't be able to perform anymore. Clubs can and do change all the time. Why reward such an arbitrary time frame like 5 years?

I Agree, before the start of each Season Uefa should select 4 team at random to represent the 4 slots for La Liga, PL, Bundes, and Serie A.

Wait, this sounds like something you hears at Football games for kids where they all get a participation trophies. I take that back, recent performance matter.
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Post by zigra Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:49 pm

Qualification for international tournaments isn't based on some vague "recent performance".
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