The Cherries (Sour ones) vs 5 time European Champions

FFS LIVERPOOL GET YOUR FECKIN SHIT TOGETHER WHAT IS THIS GODDAMMIT

Don't do this to me for gods sake

we abs deserve it with such shit defending

I know Great Defender Matip isn't playing but come on ffs. Win this shit.

Origi ffs.

Art Morte wrote:Win = title race
Draw = top-4 race
Lose = *bleep*

Well, *bleep*

Goddammit

Bleep indeed, guess those cherries tasted sour after all

Two things: It's retarded to play Lucas as CB, hopefully the last time we see that happen. Also, it's time to reinstate Mignolet, Karius is quite simply worse than him.

the truth is lads we were never in the title race. I said at the very start we just cant defend. I didn't see the 2nd half but we must have been a embarresment

Shh. You're still very much in it. Believe ffs.

Rule of thumb IMO is that if you're talking about whether you're in the title race or not, you're not in it.
Let's call it the "Arsenal rule".

Doesn't matter if you talk or not. Arsenal has not been in title races in over a decade.

Art Morte wrote:Karius is quite simply worse than him.

Didn't know that was possible.

Myesyats wrote:

Art Morte wrote:Karius is quite simply worse than him.

Didn't know that was possible.

It's not true though. Art is an idiot and delusional for believing that.

Karius saves two certain goals today. Can't really blame him for the other goals other than the last one. Mignolet has done much worse.

You know I'm not even mad or angry about todays result.

It's disappointing but we played well in the first and controlled the game until 75th minute.

The Benny Hill last 15 minutes is just something lolworthy more than anything.

Not too worried.

Our 2 best and most important players Coutinho and Matip were missing. Matip was a huge loss.

Btw Firmino was awful. Worst player on the pitch by far.

wtf how can you be 3-1 up and lose 4-3, Klopp you are not Rodgers. Its okay. Shit happens.

Need to keep calm and get top 4

Don't call me James wrote:You know I'm not even mad or angry about todays result.

It's disappointing but we played well in the first and controlled the game until 75th minute.

The Benny Hill last 15 minutes is just something lolworthy more than anything.

Not too worried.

Our 2 best and most important players Coutinho and Matip were missing. Matip was a huge loss.

we didn't really miss coutinho but we did miss matip badly. and that is a big problem for me. what that means is we are defending as individuals and not as a team.

No, it means that Matip is a leader who dictates the backline and keeps them as a unit defending very well together.

When he's absent there are no leaders back there. Nobody is there to hold Lovren's hand like Matip does. No one is there to calm Hendo the headless chicken down.

I'm not disappointed with the result but the with the way it materialized. It's normal for the odd mid-lower table teams to show-up and get a result. But capitulating from 3-1 lead and that too in 15-odd minutes is pure sacrilege.

Positive notes: Origi has (seemingly) slotted-in seamlessly while Mane seems to be returning to form.

How long before Mane leaves for Afcon btw? Will Cou be back by then?

Gonna have to make tough calls on FPL ffs.

Reality check.

Thought the game was won and didn't see it out..........

Art Morte wrote:Two things: It's retarded to play Lucas as CB, hopefully the last time we see that happen.

Lucas did better than Lovren and he's not even a CB. You can hardly blame Leiva today.

Don't call me James wrote:

Myesyats wrote:

Art Morte wrote:Karius is quite simply worse than him.

Didn't know that was possible.

It's not true though. Art is an idiot and delusional for believing that.

Karius saves two certain goals today. Can't really blame him for the other goals other than the last one. Mignolet has done much worse.

I think you're the last person to call anybody delusional mate. Calma.

Karius hasn't done much better than Mignolet, no. Mignolet has made many "saves for certain goals" / kept us in games as well, he was still fault for many mistakes costing us points as well, just like how Karius has done.

Karius does have the excuse that he is still adapting to a shaky defence line and in a new environment, but IMO the real issue with what we're conceding is our defence. It's painfully clear how bad we are defensively when Matip isn't playing. It's just a shame Sakho had to make a fuss / build bridges with Klopp because he's the only defender that is in the same bracket as Matip. Now he's on his way out in January and we're stuck with Lucas and Lovren.....

I don't think Matip would have made a massive difference in the result. There were breakdowns all over the field. Even as bad as Lovren's header was Milner's penalty play was actually about 10x dumber and completely unnecessary. On every other goal there were multiple levels of breakdown (and somehow Cook turned into Ronaldinho with his touch and finish for his goal). Even the last goal I won't put on Karius too much. He was never going to be able to catch that with the power and dip on it, given where it bounced -- we needed to have someone on our team be the first to get to that rebound but everyone was just caught watching it.

This was just an example of the team thinking the game was over before it was, and caving under the pressure of an underdog team fighting their hearts out to the last minute. A deserved loss but not an indication of any kind of sinking ship or fundamental issue with the team. It happens to everyone.

That said, in the moment, it was extremely frustrating and hard to watch.

the question is why do Liverpool suffer so many days like this. I know all teams lose games you expect to win it happens to the best of teams but with Liverpool games like that come round like clock work. we could win the next 5 games 5-0 but we all know another melt down is just around the corner. we went from being a very good team a few weeks ago to right now being the joke of football.