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Post by Unique on Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:48 pm

looks like Liverpool are serious about getting naby keita this summer and will need to smash the club transfer record to get him but is he worth it. £60mil plus addons is a crazy sum of money and tbh I don't know anything about the player so how good is this guy.

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Post by Blue on Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:10 pm

Really good imo. The complete package; work rate, creativity, goals, technique, intelligence, etc.

Great signing for Liverpool if this happen.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:26 pm

Of course he is not 'worth' 70m € but then again the more often we say this the clearer it becomes it makes no sense to proclaim a player 'not worth x' when x is quite apparently his going rate.

Exception that proves the rule: Morata.
Definitively not worth whatever moronic sums some braindead club is going to pay.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:43 pm

Interestingly enough, today Leipzig signed the young Austrian midfielder Laimer from their feeder club RB Salzburg

http://www.goallegacy.net/t40222p50-summer-2017-confirmed-transfers-and-contracts#1769305

Laimer was basically Keita's successor in the Salzburg team after Keita moved to Leipzig last season.

The possibility of Leipzig letting Keita go certainly did not get smaller with this transfer.

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Post by Helmer on Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:05 pm

I just want to ****ing sign him, I'm fed up trying to find the smart buy who's ultimately the wrong buy, this guy is clearly a super talent, is hyped around Europe, and looks perfect for our team, and Klopp wants him. Let's stop ****ing around and just sign him, It'll be a massive statement for the club and he'll undoubtedly improve us.

He is a player who will improve our shit midfield 10 times and will take us somewhat close to our rivals.

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Post by Helmer on Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:33 pm

Some Guinean twitted the following:

Amadou Makadji @makadjiamadou
#Transfert, #Klopp a parlé avec #Naby samedi et Liverpool transmettra ce soir une offre concrète à #Leipzig. Klopp le veut coûte que coûte
3:04 PM - 2 Jul 2017 · Londerzeel, België

Amadou Makadji @makadjiamadou
#Transfert #Naby va rencontrer le président de #Leipzig lundi. Ce dernier tentera de le convaincre pour calmer ses envie de départ.

Amadou Makadji @makadjiamadou
#Transfert le salaire proposé au Guinéen serait désormais de 150 000 euros par semaine au lieu de 140 000.

Some French broken knowledge from me shows that it means:
1) klopp spoke to keita - and keita wants to move now. We'll make an offer tonight
--- Klopp wants Keita at all costs
2) Keita will speak to Leipzig president on Monday
3) he'll earn 150k euros per week

please correct me if I am wrong.

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Post by urbaNRoots on Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:16 pm

This would be an incredible signing for Pool. I hope Ox happens instead lol.
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Post by Helmer on Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:27 pm

@urbaNRoots wrote:This would be an incredible signing for Pool. I hope Ox happens instead lol.

I want both of them Twisted Evil
I just love Ox, incredible player. Just needs the right coach to flourish :coffee:

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Post by Unique on Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:15 pm

I'm sure I see a quote from klopp saying we have no interest in ox

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Post by Nishankly on Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:56 pm

Is he really that good? I've seen him twice, He looked decent.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:58 pm

@Nishankly wrote:Is he really that good? I've seen him twice, He looked decent.


Who knows. He looked great this season but then it's one season Laughing

The price is completely insane, of course. Personally, I'd want my club to wait and see whether Keita confirms his performances, now also in CL.
But I guess Klopp can't wait much longer Laughing

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Post by Nishankly on Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:03 pm

Finally in the CL and Klopp knows every previous manager has failed to capitalize on progress. He's not looking back. Filling the cracks with directly cement here rather than paper.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:09 pm

yeah I guess he's right.

He seems generally to put a lot of trust in former Red Bull Salzburg/Roger Schmidt/Rangnick project players who have learned the pressing and transition game.

It worked out well with Mané, not so much with Kampl at BVB.

Keita last season was wonderful, a midfielder who does everything and well - defending, creating, passing, dribbling, tackling, running, scoring.

But it really is not a very long record to rely on.
Leipzig are moving upwards, have no money problem and Keita has a long term contract, they don't need and want to sell so they can quote a ridiculous price.

If you want him badly you'll just have to pay it. It's not like you lack funds either.

In that case however, it would be best if fans don't connect the transfer sum to some notion of how the player is supposed to perform ("win games on his own" or some such shit).
It should be merely considered as the sum you had to afford to get the player you wanted.

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Post by Doc on Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:19 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:In that case however, it would be best if fans don't connect the transfer sum to some notion of how the player is supposed to perform ("win games on his own" or some such shit).
It should be merely considered as the sum you had to afford to get the player you wanted.

So I guess this means Pogba, Utd and its fans should get a lil ease up from you then?

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Post by Nishankly on Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:29 pm

Well if Liverpool spend 70m on Keita, I won't be talking about Pogba for a while for sure. Laughing
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:38 pm

@Doc wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:In that case however, it would be best if fans don't connect the transfer sum to some notion of how the player is supposed to perform ("win games on his own" or some such shit).
It should be merely considered as the sum you had to afford to get the player you wanted.

So I guess this means Pogba, Utd and its fans should get a lil ease up from you then?


I think I may have actually been one of those defending Pogba quite often even if I made the thread in which he was being shat on Laughing

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Post by farfan on Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:57 pm

No Keita is worth that much imo.
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Post by Nishankly on Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:13 pm

"No, Keita is" or "No Keita is"?

Completely different meanings for both. hmm
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Post by iftikhar on Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:28 am

@Nishankly wrote:"No, Keita is" or "No Keita is"?

Completely different meanings for both. hmm
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:50 am

Didi Hamann believes if Liverpool splash out a record-breaking £70million on midfielder Naby Keita it will prove to be money well spent. [..]

“You can question the fees being mentioned for the likes of (Virgil) van Dijk and Keita, but if you want the top players you have to pay the going rate.

“It’s no good saying the market value is £30million because you aren’t going to get someone like that for that fee.

“If Liverpool had to pay £60million or £70million to get Keita it wouldn’t worry me. You are buying a top player for years to come.”
[..]

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/naby-keita-heading-liverpool-70million-13276906

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:53 am

Maybe they will and maybe they won't, but Hamann is clueless and doesn't know anything.

He's no better than any other pundit out there.
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Post by Kaladin on Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:01 pm

60m on Keita and 50m on Salah Laughing

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Post by rincon on Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:03 pm

its pretty ridiculous money but at least those 2 are sure to improve Liverpool a lot. Salah is a guarantee, Keita needs to confirm his level.
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Post by Unique on Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:37 pm

ES wrote:60m on Keita and 50m on Salah Laughing
better than spending 25mil on borini Laughing

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Post by Doc on Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:14 pm

@Unique wrote:
ES wrote:60m on Keita and 50m on Salah Laughing
better than spending 25mil on borini Laughing

Milan didn't spend 25mil on Borini. It was a loan to purchase deal which is around 5 million pounds.

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