BREXIT Premier League 17-18 Discussion Part 8

Winter is Coming wrote:

looks like manure fans agree with everything ive been saying

Agree with Mole at this point of the discussion but I think attacks before 07 need to be disregarded because that was another era. No idea how to compare though, Too much semantics.

City's goals come from everywhere, I can't really say their attack is very good considering Aguero has 12 in 4, Which again brings us to the point of attack vs midfield.

Good discussion imo

Nishankly wrote:Agree with Mole at this point of the discussion but I think attacks before 07 need to be disregarded because that was another era. No idea how to compare though, Too much semantics.

City's goals come from everywhere, I can't really say their attack is very good considering Aguero has 12 in 4, Which again brings us to the point of attack vs midfield.

Good discussion imo

forget about anything mole tells you. city in no time in there history have had a strike force as good as henry and bergkamp. is anyone really thinking that aguro is better than Brazilian Ronaldo because Ronaldo played when football was easy. at this point I'm beginning to think nascar knows more about soccer than mole.

Unique wrote:forget about anything mole tells you. city in no time in there history have had a strike force as good as henry and bergkamp.

Taking nothing away from Arsenal because being unbeaten in the league is an incredible achievement. They scored 73 goals in 38 games in 2003-4. City have scored 79 goals in 27 league games so far this season. The benchmark is Chelsea's 103 goals in the 2009-10 season.

Henry has 175 league goals in 258 premier league games and Sergio currently has 143 in 203 or in total Henry 228 in 376 games and Aguero has 197 in 285 games. My money is on Aguero to score 33 league goals in the next 55 league games and 32 goals in the next 91 games in all competitions.

Bergkamp scored 120 goals for Arsenal in 423 appearances. Tevez scored 73 in 148 for City. Dzeko scored 72 in 189 games. Would Tevez or Dzeko have scored another 48 goals in 250 games? Probably.

At this point I'm beginning to think Mole knows his stuff.

Mole actually said you can make an argument for the midfield being the best but not for the attack lol

zigra wrote:Mole actually said you can make an argument for the midfield being the best but not for the attack lol

Which I stand by tbh, Silva playing at the best rate of his career, De Bruyne playing at a Balon D'or level and the style of play implemented by the manager are probably bigger reasons for their success than any performance by Aguero, Sterling and Sane.

Basically I think there's a bigger argument for City having the best season/team ever than having the best attack ever.

chemicalboy99 wrote:

Unique wrote:forget about anything mole tells you. city in no time in there history have had a strike force as good as henry and bergkamp.

Taking nothing away from Arsenal because being unbeaten in the league is an incredible achievement. They scored 73 goals in 38 games in 2003-4. City have scored 79 goals in 27 league games so far this season. The benchmark is Chelsea's 103 goals in the 2009-10 season.

Henry has 175 league goals in 258 premier league games and Sergio currently has 143 in 203 or in total Henry 228 in 376 games and Aguero has 197 in 285 games. My money is on Aguero to score 33 league goals in the next 55 league games and 32 goals in the next 91 games in all competitions.

Bergkamp scored 120 goals for Arsenal in 423 appearances. Tevez scored 73 in 148 for City. Dzeko scored 72 in 189 games. Would Tevez or Dzeko have scored another 48 goals in 250 games? Probably.

At this point I'm beginning to think Mole knows his stuff.

Sergio will never be as good as henry as long as he has a hole in his ass. and please don't talk about tevez and dzeko in the same breath as bergkamp.

chemicalboy99 wrote:

Unique wrote:forget about anything mole tells you. city in no time in there history have had a strike force as good as henry and bergkamp.

Taking nothing away from Arsenal because being unbeaten in the league is an incredible achievement. They scored 73 goals in 38 games in 2003-4. City have scored 79 goals in 27 league games so far this season. The benchmark is Chelsea's 103 goals in the 2009-10 season.

Henry has 175 league goals in 258 premier league games and Sergio currently has 143 in 203 or in total Henry 228 in 376 games and Aguero has 197 in 285 games. My money is on Aguero to score 33 league goals in the next 55 league games and 32 goals in the next 91 games in all competitions.

Bergkamp scored 120 goals for Arsenal in 423 appearances. Tevez scored 73 in 148 for City. Dzeko scored 72 in 189 games. Would Tevez or Dzeko have scored another 48 goals in 250 games? Probably.

At this point I'm beginning to think Mole knows his stuff.

that would necessitate Agüero staying and he has been rumoured out for a while now

After him staying last summer i'm starting to think they are just that.

Rumors.

Your mom's a rumor lmao

RealGunner wrote:Pires-Henry-Bergkamp and Tevez-Rooney-Ronaldo were both superior.

Tevez-Rooney-Ronaldo where SAF played Tevez as a left mid and he contributed zero to the team, that Tevez?

Martial-Rashfraud-Lukaku-Lingard

CBarca wrote:Your mom's a rumor lmao

Enough of your sass talk young man.

Sané, Agüero, Sterling is probably not even a top 5 Premier League attack. They are more or less on the same level as Firmino, Salah, Mané, if not inferior (you swap De Bruyne, D. Silva, Fernandinho with Can, Oxlad-Chamberlain, Wijnaldum-Leviosa and see what happens).

Obviously when Art(?) made the comment "City's attack might be the best I've seen in the prem" was made, it's not referencing on paper names but the entire package.

I don't know why that would be obvious but if that was the question then it's among the best for sure as no other Premier League side ever possessed such an offensively dominant midfield.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Obviously when Art(?) made the comment "City's attack might be the best I've seen in the prem" was made, it's not referencing on paper names but the entire package.

Yes. I don't think you can talk about City's attack without De Bruyne and Silva. It's probably the most attacking side I've ever seen in the Prem and the best attack as in what the team can collectively do in attack.

Unique wrote: Sergio will never be as good as henry as long as he has a hole in his ass. and please don't talk about tevez and dzeko in the same breath as bergkamp.

So where has this god like status Bergkamp has achieved come from? At least plump for Van Persie if you're droning on about a prolific Arsenal Striker. Bergkamp's strike rate is less than a Tottenham Jermain Defoe FFS
Even in Serie A Bergkamp scored an eye watering 11 goals in two seasons. Take a wild guess if Dzeko and Tevez have possible scored more, I dare ya.

If Aguero ends up scoring more goals in less games in England than Henry we can assume he's the better striker yes?

futbol wrote:Sané, Agüero, Sterling is probably not even a top 5 Premier League attack. They are more or less on the same level as Firmino, Salah, Mané, if not inferior (you swap De Bruyne, D. Silva, Fernandinho with Can, Oxlad-Chamberlain, Wijnaldum-Leviosa and see what happens).

Go on then i'll bite.

4 other premiership attacks that have 43 goals and 21 assists between them.

Actually i'll be fair....name one.

Incidently why are you throwing shade on Liverpool's midfield? Ok they can't create $hit because Unique thinks they need to look up more or something retarded but that Barcelona midfield stinks as well. 8 ASSISTS.....thank god for Messi eh.

chemicalboy99 wrote:

Unique wrote:forget about anything mole tells you. city in no time in there history have had a strike force as good as henry and bergkamp.

Taking nothing away from Arsenal because being unbeaten in the league is an incredible achievement. They scored 73 goals in 38 games in 2003-4. City have scored 79 goals in 27 league games so far this season. The benchmark is Chelsea's 103 goals in the 2009-10 season.

Henry has 175 league goals in 258 premier league games and Sergio currently has 143 in 203 or in total Henry 228 in 376 games and Aguero has 197 in 285 games. My money is on Aguero to score 33 league goals in the next 55 league games and 32 goals in the next 91 games in all competitions.

Bergkamp scored 120 goals for Arsenal in 423 appearances. Tevez scored 73 in 148 for City. Dzeko scored 72 in 189 games. Would Tevez or Dzeko have scored another 48 goals in 250 games? Probably.

At this point I'm beginning to think Mole knows his stuff.

This is a flawed argument if ever there was one.

Unique getting upventused by Arsenal fans. Wattba

El Gunner wrote:

chemicalboy99 wrote:

Unique wrote:forget about anything mole tells you. city in no time in there history have had a strike force as good as henry and bergkamp.

Taking nothing away from Arsenal because being unbeaten in the league is an incredible achievement. They scored 73 goals in 38 games in 2003-4. City have scored 79 goals in 27 league games so far this season. The benchmark is Chelsea's 103 goals in the 2009-10 season.

Henry has 175 league goals in 258 premier league games and Sergio currently has 143 in 203 or in total Henry 228 in 376 games and Aguero has 197 in 285 games. My money is on Aguero to score 33 league goals in the next 55 league games and 32 goals in the next 91 games in all competitions.

Bergkamp scored 120 goals for Arsenal in 423 appearances. Tevez scored 73 in 148 for City. Dzeko scored 72 in 189 games. Would Tevez or Dzeko have scored another 48 goals in 250 games? Probably.

At this point I'm beginning to think Mole knows his stuff.

This is a flawed argument if ever there was one.

Yep, strikers being judged on the number of goals they score, how controversial.

Bergkamp wasn't really a striker though much closer to an attacking midfielder in the things he did tbh.

chemicalboy is essentially BarcaLearning without smileys so this is all a big waste of time IMO

Nishankly wrote:Unique getting upventused by Arsenal fans. Wattba

ehh, what does Webster say about upventused?