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Post by messixaviesta on Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:31 pm

Even though Germany are arguably still the strongest national team around they may be plagued with one too many fitness concerns - in goal, in central defense, on the left wing, etc. and they still haven't found a center forward to deliver on the big stage for them the way Miroslav Klose used to.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:13 pm

I've yet to witness Sané having a good game for the NT

It's funny lol, he's like the anti-Podolski, quite clearly the best attackinh performer of the young ones at club level, astonishing season for City, but I've never seen him click with the NT so far

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Post by S on Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:54 am



Sane excluded

Reus makes it, ufff.
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Post by Babun on Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:31 am

Löw is doing the same mistake again. We have one real forward only = Gramps Mario Gomez. I will wonder if we make it out of the group stages.

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Post by urbaNRoots on Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:37 am

Werner is a CF too and has been for a while.

It‘s a strong team, I expect the semifinals at least.
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Post by Art Morte on Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:25 pm

Sane would be a star player in England's team x)

I thought Draxler wasn't doing that good at PSG, I would've thought he had been the one to be dropped.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:29 pm

everytime i have seen Sane for Germany he was garbage, this weekend was the latest example. he is not entitled for a place in the squad, and it's not shocking he is out. Might still come in as reserve with Reus and all...

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Post by Winter is Coming on Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:45 pm

Sane performance may have been bad. but being dropped for Brandt Laughing

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Post by jibers on Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:17 pm

@Winter is Coming wrote:Sane performance may have been bad. but being dropped for Brandt Laughing


He's being dropped for Draxler and Reus. Brandt is for the rw...

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Post by Winter is Coming on Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:25 pm

@jibers wrote:
@Winter is Coming wrote:Sane performance may have been bad. but being dropped for Brandt Laughing


He's being dropped for Draxler and Reus. Brandt is for the rw...


Well that makes sense then tbh.

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Post by Babun on Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:26 pm

@urbaNRoots wrote:Werner is a CF too and has been for a while.

It‘s a strong team, I expect the semifinals at least.

http://www.goal.com/en-sg/lists/golden-shoe-2017-18-messi-salah-europes-top-scorers/1iyca68kk1ufm1knw2vvw7ehup#19avzl8lhzmls12nup43rxt5qz

Find a single German Forward, the only Bundesliga representant is Lewandowski.

Werner is very fast but not experienced enough for big tournaments. The only guy who has proven anything is gramps Gomez, that's why I consider him as a striker. The flaws won't be exposed against trash tier teams but probably in the elemination round vs good defences. Someone like Sane or Schürrle is nice to have on the bench in case we are trailing in the 80th minute or so. We don't need zillions of midfielders.

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Post by sportsczy on Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:43 pm

Reus isn't the Reus we all remember anymore. Draxler barely played for PSG. Sane CLEARLY outperformed all of them this season... and played a lot. The guys with a lot of mileage tend to look tired in these pre-WC friendlies.

I agree with Babun... you take Sane. He's dynamic. There are always games where you need a difference maker to come in the game. Germany just took a joker away from themselves.

And it's not like Germany has a million proven scorers on the team (Mueller was shit this year and has been for the past two).

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Post by urbaNRoots on Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:48 pm

@Babun wrote:
@urbaNRoots wrote:Werner is a CF too and has been for a while.

It‘s a strong team, I expect the semifinals at least.

http://www.goal.com/en-sg/lists/golden-shoe-2017-18-messi-salah-europes-top-scorers/1iyca68kk1ufm1knw2vvw7ehup#19avzl8lhzmls12nup43rxt5qz

Find a single German Forward, the only Bundesliga representant is Lewandowski.

Werner is very fast but not experienced enough for big tournaments. The only guy who has proven anything is gramps Gomez, that's why I consider him as a striker. The flaws won't be exposed against trash tier teams but probably in the elemination round vs good defences. Someone like Sane or Schürrle is nice to have on the bench in case we are trailing in the 80th minute or so. We don't need zillions of midfielders.


I think the attack should be the least of our worries, Reus, Werner, Müller, Özil, all capable of creating and scoring goals at the big stage and Gomez too with his experience. My worry is the incapability of keeping a clean sheet and the inclusion of a GK who is not and will likely be ready physically or mentally for the World Cup.
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Post by zigra on Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:31 pm

Dropping Sane is fine. You can't not perform for the NT and still expect to be included just because your club form is great.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:39 pm

@zigra wrote:Dropping Sane is fine. You can't not perform for the NT and still expect to be included just because your club form is great.


Sure you can, especially when the only reference points are friendlies and meaningless qualifiers.

A smart person would trust in his talent and believe that form would show up when it matters.

And if that doesn't happen you bench him, not just give up before the competition even starts.

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Post by zigra on Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:45 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@zigra wrote:Dropping Sane is fine. You can't not perform for the NT and still expect to be included just because your club form is great.


Sure you can, especially when the only reference points are friendlies and meaningless qualifiers.

A smart person would trust in his talent and believe that form would show up when it matters.

And if that doesn't happen you bench him, not just give up before the competition even starts.


He's not competing against scrubs though. The people nominated have simply outperformed him and are of the highest quality. It would be unfair not to take them just because he has some mysterious quality he has never shown when playing for Germany. We're not talking about any football team but the strongest national football team in the world. You want in you have to perform.

Germany will win the WC anyway.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:11 pm

You are acting like it's impossible for him to perform lmao.

Also the people who have gone instead are not of high quality lol.

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Post by urbaNRoots on Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:13 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:You are acting like it's impossible for him to perform lmao.

Also the people who have gone instead are not of high quality lol.


Which of the competing players is not high quality?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:15 pm

Draxler, Brandnt etc etc.

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Post by Winter is Coming on Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:18 pm

Why is his performance been solid for City, but not Germany? Is it a tactically thing? Does Low prefer inverted wingers to pure wingers?

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Post by urbaNRoots on Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:18 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Draxler, Brandnt etc etc.


Laughing Laughing
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:24 pm

Laugh all you want tbh, Draxler is every bit of a fraud as someone like Shaqiri.

Hyped as kids and then become absolutely nothing.

I don't even to explain Brandnt tbh, Sane will be the one laughing when Germany does nothing and he proves why he's one of the best wingers in the world again.

Unbelievable this is even being defended tbh.

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Post by zigra on Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:30 pm

@urbaNRoots wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Draxler, Brandnt etc etc.


Laughing Laughing


Exactly.
But what can you expect from someone who probably hasn't watched any football outside of Newcastle matches in 5 years.
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Post by urbaNRoots on Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:32 pm

Enough about this Sahne crap, if Germany don‘t win the World Cup it certainly won‘t be because of him Laughing

You would think we are talking about some World Class player, even if he were invinted he wouldn‘t start anyway because of Müller, Özil and Reus.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:38 pm

@zigra wrote:
@urbaNRoots wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Draxler, Brandnt etc etc.


Laughing Laughing


Exactly.
But what can you expect from someone who probably hasn't watched any football outside of Newcastle matches in 5 years.


The fact this is all you can resort to means you are clueless tbh.

@urbaNRoots wrote:Enough about this Sahne crap, if Germany don‘t win the World Cup it certainly won‘t be because of him Laughing

You would think we are talking about some World Class player, even if he were invinted he wouldn‘t start anyway because of Müller, Özil and Reus.


Yeah that great Muller who has been a shell of himself for like 3 years, Reus who can't stay fit for more than 5 minutes and Ozil rofl

Unreal reasons to not take the best performing German of this season outside of Kroos maybe.

Oh and Sane is world class, only an idiot would argue it.

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Post by urbaNRoots on Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:45 pm

Imagine hyping the German Pedro so much ffs.

His competition was Julian Brandt and he lost out, tough shit. I‘m sure he will improve in the future to be included.
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