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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri May 18, 2018 1:21 am

Tbf almost any striker would be the same, it's just easier to play with a partner than it is by yourself.

Can't think of many who struggle with a strike partner but excel by themselves.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri May 18, 2018 1:25 am

always twisting facts when it was convenient, first of all, Falcao did not miss that many games, and Germain was playing next to Mbappe when Falcao was out. Mbappe never played all by himself up top

Jardim almost never changed his 442 from last season with Lemar one the left and Silva on the right.
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Post by sportsczy Fri May 18, 2018 1:25 am

You need two scorers... totally agree Mole. This lone striker thing is done and dusted imo. The only one who still thinks like that is Mourinho.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri May 18, 2018 1:28 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Tbf almost any striker would be the same, it's just easier to play with a partner than it is by yourself.

Can't think of many who struggle with a strike partner but excel by themselves.
obviously having someone next to you that you can play off is much better, some players simply struggle to even perform in those conditions, whereas for other players, it's natural and they cope just fine.

My point is Mbappe however much i love him, needs time to learn how to play as a lone forward, and i dont understand why Deschamps just took Giroud.

Mbappe's talent will overcome the odds at some point so maybe thats what he os betting on
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Post by sportsczy Fri May 18, 2018 1:31 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:always twisting facts when it was convenient, first of all, Falcao did not miss that many games, and Germain was playing next to Mbappe when Falcao was out. Mbappe never played all by himself up top

Jardim almost never changed his 442 from last season with Lemar one the left and Silva on the right.

Falcao played 1 game between Feb 25 and April 4 last season (and that 1 game was as a sub).  In those 6 games, where Mbappe was the CF, he scored 7 goals and had 1 assist.  Scored in 5 straight games during that stretch. He had 24 goals total for the season....  and 30% of them happened in that 5-6 week stretch where he was CF.

And who was talking about alone at the top?  It's the role of CF next to Griezmann...  two striker setup.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri May 18, 2018 1:35 am

and in all those games Valere Germain was playing next to Mbappe to hold his hand, still in a 2CF set up, because the rest of the team never changed, my point.
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Post by sportsczy Fri May 18, 2018 1:41 am

Germain in no universe played CF at Monaco lol.  Only in emergency cases or when they wanted to give guys a rest.  Did you even watch the games?  That only happened at OM this season because our only other CF is Mitroglou and he's been mostly shit.

At Monaco, it was Falcao then Berbatov then Martial then Falcao then Mbappe... and then Falcao again.  Germain was basically Griezmann for Monaco in terms of positioning until Mbappe came along.  In fact Germain was always fighting for a role as he was benched by Martial for a half a season too.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri May 18, 2018 1:49 am

and Germain playing with Mbappe is a 2 CF set up
Griezmann playing with Costa = 2 CFs set up
Mbappe playing with Falcao = 2 CFs set up scratch

unlike Lukaku at United leading the line by himself = lone n9
Lewandowski in bayern, lone n9
Icardi at Inter, lone n9

Mbappe is very good when he is playing very close to another striker. we have seen him shine so far at Monaco in that role.

However at PSG, when he had to play alone up front when Cavani was out it did not look good, he doesnt know how to do it all by himself, i dont know why you feel the need to defend him, those are just facts. and Mbappe is like one of my 3 favorite players, im just realistic.
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Post by RealGunner Fri May 18, 2018 2:14 am

Giroud is crucial to any set up. He is the first name on the team sheet too along with kante. Mbappe and Griezmann will fight for a place to be with him.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri May 18, 2018 2:25 am

i used to think that too RG but Mbappe will start and he did not take a 3rd CF. not sure he will run the risk of playing Giroud when there is no one off the bench. He said he considers Griezmann, Mbappe, giroud and Fekir as the forwards.

DO you remember the game vs England? that's how they will start the WC if there are no injuries

Lloris
Sidibe Varane Umtiti Mendy
Dembele Pogba Kante Lemar
Griezmann Mbappe

that's the team
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Post by Kick Fri May 18, 2018 3:42 am

Giroud offers that physical presence, if DD is smart he'll use Giroud in the scrappy games and Mbappe in the games where they can play.

I think they'll be rotated, if anything. Next to Griezmann.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri May 18, 2018 3:46 am

Mbappe is a 180 mil player, he can't play off the bench
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Post by Kick Fri May 18, 2018 3:57 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:Mbappe is a 180 mil player, he can't play off the bench


If he thinks this way then he deserves the bench. He didn't cost France a cent.
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Post by elitedam Fri May 18, 2018 4:00 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:i used to think that too RG but Mbappe will start and he did not take a 3rd CF. not sure he will run the risk of playing Giroud when there is no one off the bench. He said he considers Griezmann, Mbappe, giroud and Fekir as the forwards.

DO you remember the game vs England? that's how they will start the WC if there are no injuries

Lloris
Sidibe Varane Umtiti Mendy
Dembele Pogba Kante Lemar
Griezmann Mbappe

that's the team

That's a scary team on paper. I haven't followed France too much. Has Deschamps been able to put it all together?
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Post by Cruijf Fri May 18, 2018 6:01 am

I disagree actually, if that's the team then France are gonna do worse than I thought. The front 2 is nice sure but that midfield is very suspect. Spain or Germany would rip them apart.
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Post by Valkyrja Fri May 18, 2018 6:07 am

France won't win anything with Pogboom in the team anyway
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Post by LeBéninois Wed May 23, 2018 4:18 pm

Adrien Rabiot asks to be off stand-by list for France’s World Cup squad’ and insists he will ‘not keep fit’....

Deschamps said he made a '' huge mistake '' .
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Post by sportsczy Thu May 24, 2018 1:00 am

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Post by Doc Thu May 24, 2018 1:03 am

Sports, I got a friend who insist Deschamps leaving Rabiot behind was stupid, what's the opinion on such things on your end of the world?
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Post by sportsczy Thu May 24, 2018 1:41 am

Doc wrote:Sports, I got a friend who insist Deschamps leaving Rabiot behind was stupid, what's the opinion on such things on your end of the world?

He's been very meh for a long time... and he refuses to play holding mid. They had to back up Kante and N'Zonzi is the better choice. The other guys are just plain better right now than Rabiot.

Kid needs to grow up. Maybe this does it.
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Post by Turok_TTZ Thu May 24, 2018 4:22 am

This nt needs a benz. only Varane and Griezmann are proper men. the rest are bois who dont know how to win big cup competitions. the lack of winning experience is evident.

Pogba has been ruined by mourinho. and deschamps is a mourinho bootleg in terms of tactics. i dont fancy France's odds. after that Euro campaign, i aint convinced this nt has a chance to go all the way in the world cup this year. semi final at best. and thats a big if.

then again. the competition is lacking and mou tactics are still relatively strong in international football. Im hoping to see mbappe explode.
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Post by RealGunner Sat May 26, 2018 11:55 pm




Deschamps is the only reason France won't win the World Cup and i really hope he gets the sack after this WC because this generation really is special.

Still hoping the players perform well. Fekir, Pogba, Mbappe, Dembele, Giroud and griezmann. It's just too good to not reach the semis at least.

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Post by sportsczy Sat May 26, 2018 11:59 pm

The thing is RG...  french people in general and, thus, french players, have a piss poor attitudes and a sense of entitlement.  So you have to manage them with an iron fist unless there's a player like Zidane that's the clear leader.  This team doesn't have a clear leader...  so DD is forced to really be a disciplinarian.

That's my concern.  No leadership.  We've always had talent since the late 70s.... but have only won when leaders like Platini and Zidane were on the team.  Someone needs to step up into that role.
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Post by Turok_TTZ Mon May 28, 2018 4:53 pm

that leader could have been benz lol. /s

Varane needs to step up. out of everyone there, Varane has the quality and the winning experience to be considered for leadership.

having said that, I still dont have a lot of confidence. mou tactics has no place on a football pitch. Frajce should be playing a lot better with what they got than be limited to deschamps nonsense.
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Post by sportsczy Mon May 28, 2018 8:53 pm

Seen enough shit goalkeeping this year for the next 10 years... all to the advantage of my teams. But it's really ridiculous.

What's happened to goalkeeping ffs.
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