Re: Stats thread

by Lord Awesome Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:05 pm

Harmonica wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Sorry but I don't read walls of text, either provide the point with a sentence, or we leave it there.

I even put spaces in between the sentences to enhance your reading comfort

But ok, the point in one sentence.
You're cheating, possibly even unconsciously.
Not a rational argument.

No rational counter argument given. :coffee:

Come now Harmonica, you know it as well as anyone that Ronaldo is the real best player of our generation and very likely of all time. You don't need numbers to display who's who when we can see it on the field. Messi's numbers are heighted mainly by Iniesta & Xavi's and Alves influence. We can see Messi's dependancy when he plays for Argentina. In contrast to Ronaldo who has shined no matter who he has played with.

by Harmonica Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:09 pm

Lord Awesome wrote:
Come now Harmonica, you know it as well as anyone that Ronaldo is the real best player of our generation and very likely of all time. You don't need numbers to display who's who when we can see it on the field. Messi's numbers are heighted mainly by Iniesta & Xavi's and Alves influence. We can see Messi's dependancy when he plays for Argentina. In contrast to Ronaldo who has shined no matter who he has played with.

I'm not nigerian.

by Lord Awesome Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:17 pm

Harmonica wrote:
I'm not nigerian.

It's OK take your time.

by Donuts Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:22 pm

Lord Awesome wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:

I even put spaces in between the sentences to enhance your reading comfort

But ok, the point in one sentence.
You're cheating, possibly even unconsciously.
Not a rational argument.

No rational counter argument given.

Come now Harmonica, you know it as well as anyone that Ronaldo is the real best player of our generation and very likely of all time. You don't need numbers to display who's who when we can see it on the field. Messi's numbers are heighted mainly by Iniesta & Xavi's and Alves influence. We can see Messi's dependancy when he plays for Argentina. In contrast to Ronaldo who has shined no matter who he has played with.

ronaldo shined with portugal?
ronaldo had a better year then messi but lets not get carried away lol
also lets not turn this thread into a typical ronaldo vs messi thread its been a topic that's gotten nowhere in the past 4 years.

by Casciavit Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:28 pm

Lord Awesome wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:

I even put spaces in between the sentences to enhance your reading comfort

But ok, the point in one sentence.
You're cheating, possibly even unconsciously.
Not a rational argument.

No rational counter argument given.

Come now Harmonica, you know it as well as anyone that Ronaldo is the real best player of our generation and very likely of all time. You don't need numbers to display who's who when we can see it on the field. Messi's numbers are heighted mainly by Iniesta & Xavi's and Alves influence. We can see Messi's dependancy when he plays for Argentina. In contrast to Ronaldo who has shined no matter who he has played with.

This is the type of post I would expect to see in the goal.com comments section, not on GL Laughing

by Lord Awesome Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:30 pm

Donuts wrote:

ronaldo shined with portugal?
ronaldo had a better year then messi but lets not get carried away lol
also lets not turn this thread into a typical ronaldo vs messi thread.

I'm talking their entire careers. lol

Ronaldo had only one better year than Messi? hmm

by Lord Awesome Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:31 pm

Casciavit wrote:
This is the type of post I would expect to see in the goal.com comments section, not on GL

I was a member of Goal forums. lololol

Dat Goal.com influence. :coffee:

by rwo power Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:36 pm

People, this thread is about the STATS (please refer to the thread title for the appropriate content), so please keep with the stats. Discussion about tap-ins and whatever can go elsewhere, please!!!

by Hapless_Hans Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:53 pm

Harmonica wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Sorry but I don't read walls of text, either provide the point with a sentence, or we leave it there.

I even put spaces in between the sentences to enhance your reading comfort

But ok, the point in one sentence.
You're cheating, possibly even unconsciously.
Not a rational argument.

It is actually very rational, and the reasoning behind it you can find in the 'wall of text' above Laughing

by Hapless_Hans Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:54 pm

rwo power wrote:People, this thread is about the STATS (please refer to the thread title for the appropriate content), so please keep with the stats. Discussion about tap-ins and whatever can go elsewhere, please!!!

part of the discussion about stats, really hmm

Or is this thread only for numbers without discussing their context?

by rwo power Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:22 pm

Well, if you keep discussing the stats and not derailing the thread then fine, but here's a lot of derailing going on.

by rwo power Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:50 pm

BTW, talking about stats, here are the save percentages of the Bundesliga goalies in 2014/15 (up to matchday 9) so far:

Manuel Neuer / Bayern: 90.48% (19 saves)
Yann Sommer / Gladbach: 90.00% (36 saves)

Timo Horn / Köln: 83.33% (35 saves)
Loris Karius / Mainz: 81.13% (43 saves)
Diego Benaglio / Wolfsburg: 78.26% (18 saves)

Oliver Baumann / Hoffenheim: 74.07% (20 saves)
Marwin Hitz / Augsburg: 73.81% (31 saves)
Ralf Fährmann / Schalke: 73.74% (36 saves)
Jaroslav Drobny / HSV: 72.73% (24 saves)
Roman Bürki / Freiburg: 71.43% (35 saves)
Lukas Kruse / Paderborn: 70.73% (29 saves)
Ron-Robert Zieler / Hannover: 70.72% (26 saves)

Thorsten Kirschbaum / Stuttgart: 65.52% (19 saves)
Bernd Leno / Leverkusen: 64.10% (25 saves)
Thomas Kraft / Hertha: 61.29% (19 saves)
Felix Wiedwald / Frankfurt: 60.71% (17 saves)
Roman Weidenfeller / Dortmund: 60.61% (20 saves)
Raphael Wolf / Bremen: 50.00% (23 saves)

Yann Sommer's stats: http://www.bundesliga.com/en/liga/clubs/bor-moenchengladbach/spieler.php?player=33201
Manuel Neuer's stats: http://www.bundesliga.com/en/liga/clubs/fc-bayern-muenchen/spieler.php?player=28359
(The other Gks can be found at bundesliga.com, too)

by Curtinho Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:27 pm

43 saves and 81% is pretty impressive from Karius.

by rwo power Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:44 pm

Yup. I'm really impressed by Timo Horn, too. Both Loris Karius and Timo Horn turned only 21 years of age this summer, and they got their number one spots already last year.

by Hapless_Hans Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:55 pm

you think it might be time for Klopp to call it a day with Weidenfeller and usher in Langerak, RWO?

by rwo power Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:29 pm

Hm. Problem is that Mitch Langerak, while he's definitely a cutie, isn't up to par where modern goal-keeping is concerned. Mitch is unfortunately not so good with the ball at his feet, even though he is a pretty capable shot-stopper. In the long run, Dortmund need a top modern goalkeeper who is able to perform the libero function, too.

But this doesn't belong into the stats discussion. We might continue this in either the Bundesliga or Dortmund threads.

by Harmonica Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:32 pm

Stop making this thread about cuteness rwo.

by rwo power Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:42 pm

Hey, the save percentages are hard facts. :coffee:

by Harmonica Thu Nov 27, 2014 11:01 am

Goalkeepers with best pass accuracy in Champions League: Ter Stegen 87,3% - Neuer 85,3% - Buffon 82,4%

hmm

by rwo power Thu Nov 27, 2014 11:11 am

With MAtS and Manu Neuer that was known, but Gigi duly impresses me there :bow:

by Harmonica Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:46 am

Most goals with 'weak' foot in year 2014:

Messi 15
Diego Costa 11
Ronaldo 11
Ibrahimovic 10
Aguero 8

by junkyard Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:43 pm

Harmonica wrote:Most goals with 'weak' foot in year 2014:

Messi 15
Diego Costa 11
Ronaldo 11
Ibrahimovic 10
Aguero 8

Very interesting stat, Harmonica! Thumbs up

by Harmonica Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:59 pm

2009-2015 Dribbles per game (Opta)

24.1 Bundesfodder
16.0 Serie-A
14.8 Premier League
14.7 La Liga
13.4 Ligue 1

La Liga :bow:

by futbol Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:10 pm

Doesn't surprise me. Thiago was averaging about 2 dribbles per game at Barca. At Bayern it suddenly climbed up to 5.7 per game (Messi-esque numbers). Similar with Diego Ribas. 4.9 dribbles per game at Wolfsburg. At Atletico suddenly down to 1.5. Sanchez same. 1.3 dribbles at Barca in his best ever season. 3.8 in Mule League all of a sudden. Suarez went down from 2.8 in Mule League down to 1.8 in La Liga. At the same time Messi has averaged 40 dribbles against last 4 English opposition or something like that if I'm not mistaken. GOAT Liga ain't a child's playground like Bundeslol and Mule League. GOAT Liga. Proud

by Curtinho Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:14 pm

To be fair Suarez's dribbles will also go down because Messi is the focal point of the team and not Suarez anymore.

Look at Bale goes from 1.5 to 2.1 with RM, and that's after losing the focal point status. Vela can't even dribble out of a paper bag in EPL but manages between 1.7 and 2 in Lol Liga. Meanwhile Robben dribbles circles around Barcelona.

See what I did there? A lot of it has to do with team composition and tactical style as well. Though La Liga is still a great league.

by Donuts Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:40 pm

do the % of dribbles completed by suarez.. probably much lower than his liverpool days.
la liga offers less space than epl which shows why bale doesn't "dribble" or well kick and run as much as he used to.

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