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Post by JuvenelCuore Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:44 am

Yes, I mean, if you can trust a drug dealer, you can trust about anyone !

Nobody intellectually advanced or well-to-do does drugs. Fact. :coffee:

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Post by michael1 Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:52 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:Yes, I mean, if you can trust a drug dealer, you can trust about anyone !

Nobody intellectually advanced or well-to-do does drugs. Fact. :coffee:

lol well considering iv known them since year 7, im 21 now im pretty sure i can trust them.

besides not drug dealers they just know people who can get some weed.

reallyyy do u know how many stars or well off people get high.

i mean look at the creators of south park, 2 biggest pot heads and yet theyve created probably the greatest most funniest cartoon show everrrr and have made a mint of it!!

a little recreational herb will never hurt anyone unless its on a daily basis in which case they need to relax

ps. south park FTW
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Post by JuvenelCuore Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:54 am

South Park is a stupid show and it does not surprise me that two people with damaged brains created it.

Notice that anyone who does NOT do weed never says it is not bad ? Give me a report from a medical doctor who has not blazed once that it is good. Only people who do it say it is harmless.

Coincidence ? :coffee:
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Post by Artemis Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:55 am

"Yes, I mean, if you can trust a drug dealer, you can trust about anyone !

Nobody intellectually advanced or well-to-do does drugs. Fact. "

Law student here. I have smoked for a while.

You sound like a very, very sheltered individual.
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Post by JuvenelCuore Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:55 am

If you smoke weed as a professional lawyer, I will not believe it. You are a student.
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Post by gunner1987 Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:56 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:
gunner1987 wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:It is true, Pauli. Facts and statistics prove that.

@Michael: it is very bad for you. That is why it is banned in most of the world.


not sure if trolling...............

I am not. It is bad for you, and that is a fact. You are not even aware what kinds of things the dealer does to it before he gives it to you.


what do you think he does, rubs it all over hits nuts or something? get a clue. It's not ecstasy or something that is cut before it's sold. it's weed. no long term effects, no physical addiction, and please show me a study that has tied marijuana use to any sort of disease or death.


I don't know where you are getting your "facts" from, but they simply are not true. Read up on the history of the "drug war" and see exactly why the us government banned its use in the first place.


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Post by Artemis Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:56 am

"South Park is a stupid show and it does not surprise me that two people with damaged brains created it.

Notice that anyone who does NOT do weed never says it is not bad ? Give me a report from a medical doctor who has not blazed once that it is good. Only people who do it say it is harmless.

Coincidence ?"

This argument is so terrible.
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Post by Luca Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:57 am

Artemis wrote:"Yes, I mean, if you can trust a drug dealer, you can trust about anyone !

Nobody intellectually advanced or well-to-do does drugs. Fact. "

Law student here. I have smoked for a while.

You sound like a very, very sheltered individual.

law as in law school or law related undergrad program?
legal studies student here, and yeah you're right
you're throwing a lot of generalizations out there Nick which aren't facts just views
i personally stay away from the stuff but there is a lot worse things

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Post by JuvenelCuore Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:59 am

Luca wrote:
Artemis wrote:"Yes, I mean, if you can trust a drug dealer, you can trust about anyone !

Nobody intellectually advanced or well-to-do does drugs. Fact. "

Law student here. I have smoked for a while.

You sound like a very, very sheltered individual.

law as in law school or law related undergrad program?
legal studies student here, and yeah you're right
you're throwing a lot of generalizations out there Nick which aren't facts just views
i personally stay away from the stuff but there is a lot worse things

Granted, I know there are worse things than it. It is probably the least harmful drug.

@Artemis: prove me wrong then.

If anyone can tell me why people who do not do drugs say it is bad and only the people who DO drugs say it is good, I will be sold.

Doctors, etc. who do not do them say it is bad.
Potheads who do it say it is harmless.

Hmm... :coffee:
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Post by michael1 Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:00 am

lol if u dnt like south park then u have no sense of humour.

u prob live under a rock cause most people either do weed or have done and do quite well for themselves.

its not like people go to work high or do it at school.

doin it at home or with freinds aint gonna hurt you or your career
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Post by JuvenelCuore Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:01 am

Sure, who needs a healthy brain anyway.
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Post by Luca Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:04 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:
Luca wrote:
Artemis wrote:"Yes, I mean, if you can trust a drug dealer, you can trust about anyone !

Nobody intellectually advanced or well-to-do does drugs. Fact. "

Law student here. I have smoked for a while.

You sound like a very, very sheltered individual.

law as in law school or law related undergrad program?
legal studies student here, and yeah you're right
you're throwing a lot of generalizations out there Nick which aren't facts just views
i personally stay away from the stuff but there is a lot worse things

Granted, I know there are worse things than it. It is probably the least harmful drug.

@Artemis: prove me wrong then.

If anyone can tell me why people who do not do drugs say it is bad and only the people who DO drugs say it is good, I will be sold.

Doctors, etc. who do not do them say it is bad.
Potheads who do it say it is harmless.

Hmm... :coffee:

Medicinal marijuana is used for cancer patients to ease their pain in suffering- and yes that means it has been approved by doctors and some sort of board who makes decisions on matters like these
its a pretty massive debate that you're opening

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Post by gunner1987 Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:04 am

This kid is either an idiot, or just sheltered/ fed with bullshit from his parents.

Or both.


Can't decide

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Post by Albiceleste Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:04 am

Me. :coffee:

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Post by michael1 Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:07 am

gunner1987 wrote:This kid is either an idiot, or just sheltered/ fed with bullshit from his parents.

Or both.


Can't decide

this ^^^^

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Post by JuvenelCuore Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:07 am

@Luca: big difference. Pain killers are used for sick patients too...does that mean they are okay to take for recreation ?
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Post by Luca Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:10 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:@Luca: big difference. Pain killers are used for sick patients too...does that mean they are okay to take for recreation ?

thats not a good comparison although i see your point

cigarettes kill more people than marijuana ever will
alcohol too

both legal, both for recreational use, both taxed by the government so that they can collect revenue
oh and both have worse effects on one's health

like i said, i don't believe in drug use but i can really see the argument from the other side
in the end its a personal choice and in moderation i guess it isnt that bad

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Post by Albiceleste Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:13 am

:shisha: Haters gonna hate.

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Post by JuvenelCuore Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:16 am

Agreed Luca, but drugs are worse than alcohol. Only bad thing with alcohol is that you can overdose, but unless you are a radical, a drink once in a while is fine. Not to mention wine is good for your health in moderation.
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Post by Luca Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:19 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:Agreed Luca, but drugs are worse than alcohol. Only bad thing with alcohol is that you can overdose, but unless you are a radical, a drink once in a while is fine. Not to mention wine is good for your health in moderation.

sure, in moderation
having a glass of wine at dinner isn't really recreational drinking as we would deem it, you know? i mean more drinking every weekend v. smoking weed every weekend, i dont see that big of a difference

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Post by JuvenelCuore Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:47 am

Drinking is far better than weed, though. Drugs in any sense of the word are bad. They are a gateway to more dangerous drugs.
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Post by nichabr Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:02 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:Drinking is far better than weed, though. Drugs in any sense of the word are bad. They are a gateway to more dangerous drugs.

drinking is not healthier nor less addictive than weed but are a means of relaxation and are abused by idiots that think its the cool thing to do...there is absolutely nothing wrong with weed or drinking unless you go overboard...it is a gateway drug though and if you smoke weed or drink excessively your more likely to bridge over to stronger shit...
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Post by JuvenelCuore Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:04 am

Like I said, find me someone who has not done drugs and have them say it is not bad for you. I bet the alcoholic says the same thing as the drug addict. :coffee:
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Post by Guest Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:43 am

I only smoke high quality organic stuff. You really shouldn't judge something you haven't done, there are many myths about smoking ganja. I've already posted a few things in the marijuana thread, feel free to check it out.

US government doesn't allow much testing to be done on marijuana, they already know the deal and don't want the truth to be let out. Do you even know the reason marijuana is illegal? It's a real joke.

THC > Alcohol

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Post by Bellabong Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:46 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:Only bad thing with alcohol is that you can overdose,

hahahaha. That's like saying the only bad thing about drinking cyanide is drinking it.

JuvenelCuore wrote:Drinking is far better than weed, though. Drugs in any sense of the word are bad. They are a gateway to more dangerous drugs.
:facepalm: You do know that the physiological effects of Alcohol are far more severe than Marijuana right? (And that Marijuana is not physically addictive)

JuvenelCuore wrote:It is true, Pauli. Facts and statistics prove that.

Show them.

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@Michael: it is very bad for you. That is why it is banned in most of the world.

You just opened up a can of worms mate. First of all the number 1 reason why Weed was banned in the early 1900's in several US states was because non whites smoked it. The man pretty much responsible for banning it at a federal level was Harry Anslinger. Some notable quotes:

“There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others.”

“…the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races.”

“Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death.”

“Reefer makes darkies think they’re as good as white men.”

“Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing”

“You smoke a joint and you’re likely to kill your brother.”

“Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind.”

Additonal factors was the potential "danger" the hemp industry would pose to the plastics/synthetics and timber industry(paper-wise) and is currently the #1 reason why it is still criminalized in the US. (apart from the inertia of it being banned for so long, and the "stigmas" associated with it.

Apart from the reefer madness propaganda in the 30's instigated by Anslinger the 2nd wave of government sponsored anti-marijuana propaganda came during the 60's/70's. I hope you're intelligent enough to figure out why the US government would start a second propaganda campaign during the 60's. Did you know that a 1974 study at the University of Virginia discovered that cannabinoids cause tumors to shrink and cancer cells to die (while leaving healthy cells alone.) It was never followed up because the Government only wanted to fund negative research.

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Nobody intellectually advanced or well-to-do does drugs. Fact. :coffee:

:facepalm:


I could post a lot more, but you have the reefer madness mindset and I'm just going out of my way to show you how foolish your statements are. You're peculiar though, the first reefer madness mentality person I've met that was such a strong advocate of Alcohol because simply put, Alcohol is stronger, more potent, physically addictive and potentially fatal.


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Post by Guest Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:48 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:Agreed Luca, but drugs are worse than alcohol. Only bad thing with alcohol is that you can overdose, but unless you are a radical, a drink once in a while is fine. Not to mention wine is good for your health in moderation.

You can die from alcohol withdrawal, how can you stand behind that statement?

There are a number of ways severe alcohol withdrawal can be fatal. Alcohol withdrawal causes autonomic hyperactivity which means it increases heart rate, blood pressure, body temperature and breathing rate. If severe this can cause heart attacks, strokes, cardiac arrhythmia's, cardiovascular collapse or respiratory collapse. Withdrawal seizures can sometimes be fatal. Repeated vomiting and profuse sweating caused by the withdrawal can quickly lead to fatal dehydration. Alcohol withdrawal delirium (delirium tremens or the "DTs") is the most severe form of alcohol withdrawal. Delirium tremens is uncommon but if it develops and is left untreated it carries a mortality rate of up to 35%, mostly due to the severe cardiac disturbances that I described. Fortunately due to advances in treatment and medications called benzodiazepines fatalities from alcohol withdrawal are rare. But alcohol is not the only substance that can cause a lethal withdrawal syndrome. There is a class of drugs called "Sedatives, Hypnotics and Anxiolytics". Withdrawal from this class of drugs is remarkably similar to alcohol withdrawal and can cause the same autonomic hyperactivity, seizures and delirium tremens as AW.

You should check out a few marijuana movies and really learn about it, I'm not saying you should try it, but don't be one of those guys....


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