Re: Hatem Ben Arfa

by Wor Ayoze Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:13 am

Bénin wrote:He left Lyon, OM , Newcastle and now Hull city ( !! ) for the same reasons.
Doesn't track back or stays focused etcc

Said like a person who has watched him play about 5 times and listens to all the cliches the likes of Pardew comes out with

by VendettaRed07 Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:26 am

Pardiola wins this round.. But, if we are keeping count I think it's

Mole:17
Pardew:3

So how about we call him Ben "afpa".. (Away from pitch action)

by LeBéninois Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:04 am

Wor Ayoze wrote:
Bénin wrote:He left Lyon, OM , Newcastle and now Hull city ( !! ) for the same reasons.
Doesn't track back or stays focused etcc

Said like a person who has watched him play about 5 times and listens to all the cliches the likes of Pardew comes out with

I've been following Ben arfa since 2008 . Ben Arfa and Benzema were both very good. What I didn't like with Ben Arfa was that he wasn't consistent through the whole 90 mins or would have a great game followed by poor ones.

by sportsczy Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:14 pm

http://www.nicematin.com/ogc-nice/hatem-ben-arfa-va-signer-a-logc-nice.2048452.html

Has agreed with Nice. Not a loan as he and Newcastle cancelled the remaining time on the contract.

The length of the contract is not known yet.. but he is scheduled to take his medical early next week.

Might have to go see Nice now. He's fun to watch and, with Plea and Carlos Eduardo, they're worth a watch. I like the kid Mendy too in the midfield.

Nice team for Nice now if Ben Arfa is there mentally.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:38 pm

More reason to hate Pardew.

by Mr Nick09 Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:42 pm

told you so Proud

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:55 pm

I'll let you gloat but this really is Pardew's fault, just like it is with Yanga-Mbiwa and countless others.

I can only hope the new manager doesn’t waste all the talent away like Pardew has.

I'll miss you Hatem Sad

by sportsczy Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:11 pm

The key for Ben Arfa is that, playing in France, he gets a much better chance of cleaning his name as long as he acts well and plays well. It's a big if though as he's really emotionally not that stable... in his interviews, you can tell that something isn't exactly right. He has this need to be spectacular before being a good football player and he gets depressed if he's not spectacular. He needs to do the fundamentals first and he'll be spectacular naturally. Hope he finally gets it.

by Art Morte Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:17 pm

I hope he'll do well at Nice, but feels like he wasted his talent and opportunity. He's 27 and should be in his prime, but has had to return to France, to a mid-table club, while his two ex-French-clubs are 1st (Lyon) and 2nd (Marseille) in the table.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:23 pm

Speaking of interviews this is my personal favourite

:wub:

by sportsczy Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:35 pm

his family is fractured as his agent is a POS.... basically pitted Hatem and his father against each other so they don't speak. Has no contact. Having that kind of instability off the pitch is not something he can handle.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:39 pm

Anyway......

http://www.nufc.com/html/2011-12html/2011-12-10norwich-a.html

Pardew " We accepted that we weren't going to keep a clean sheet and that we had to score goals."

So Gosling, Sammy, Ferguson, Etc etc where more likely to score? *bleep* off.

I'd blame Ben Arfa more if *bleep* wasn't treating him like shit literally years before Hatem started fighting back.

I'll never let assholes rewrite history about what went down with HBA and Pardew. Pardew was treating him like vermin every chance he got, starting a whole host of footballing legends in his place, players such as Raylor, Gosling, Shola, his mum, etc. *bleep*.

Even Ranger got back into the team. Probably the worst pro we've ever employed was forgiven while Hatem wasn't.

by Red Alert Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:54 am

Is he the French Adam Johnson? Lol

by urbaNRoots Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:57 am

French Quaresma imo

by sportsczy Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:18 am

French Cassano except that the NT coaches don't need to deal with him since there are other options...

by Red Alert Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:33 am

Officially terminates with Newcastle...

by sportsczy Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:56 pm

So it's done... had the official press conference a couple of hours ago and he's going to wear the number 4 at Nice.

Good luck to him. Hope he turns it around.

Btw, nice teams all around me now with OM, Nice and Monaco all within 1,5 hours of where i live lol. Can get to all these places by train too.

by Art Morte Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:08 pm

sportsczy wrote:So it's done... had the official press conference a couple of hours ago and he's going to wear the number 4 at Nice.

Good luck to him. Hope he turns it around.

Btw, nice teams all around me now with OM, Nice and Monaco all within 1,5 hours of where i live lol. Can get to all these places by train too.

Isn't that a defender's number or am I being all Premface here? x)

by B-Mac Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:12 pm

Cesc wears 4 hmm

by Hapless_Hans Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:19 pm

has been kicked out of 4 clubs hmm

next year he'll wear the 5 jersey somewhere hmm

by Hapless_Hans Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:30 pm

Oh dear.
Sounds like the guy has indeed been thoroughly *bleep* over by Newcastle.

Fifa has prevented Nice from registering new signing Hatem Ben Arfa.

Ben Arfa, 27, joined the Ligue 1 club on an 18-month deal after his loan at Hull City ended and his Newcastle United contract was terminated.

The world governing body's transfer rules prevent a player from appearing for more than two clubs in one season.

The midfielder played eight games for Hull and one for Newcastle's under-21s earlier this season, with Fifa ruling the latter to be an official match.

The France international, a free agent after his release from Newcastle, joined Nice on 5 January, but was not available for Saturday's 3-1 win against Lorient as he awaited international clearance.

The delay centred around article 5.3 of Fifa's regulations on the status and transfer of players, which states: "Players may be registered with a maximum of three clubs during one season.

"During this period, the player is only eligible to play official matches for two clubs."

A statement on Nice's website confirmed the club had received a copy of correspondence sent by Fifa to the French Football Federation.

It said that contrary to the position of the Football Association in England, Fifa had classed the under-21 match for Newcastle United as "official".

The development leaves Ben Arfa, who has played for his country 13 times, in limbo.

Hull cancelled his loan deal after he fell out of favour with manager Steve Bruce.

Newcastle confirmed the day before he joined Nice that both parties had reached an agreement to terminate his contract with immediate effect and by mutual consent.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/30822059

by sportsczy Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:06 pm

Yeah but the LFP in France has the last say and they are holding a hearing on Tuesday to decide whether to overturn the FIFA decision on Ben Arfa:

http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Audience-repoussee-a-mardi/528293

by Art Morte Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:49 pm

Obviously that FIFA rule isn't originally meant to be about reserve teams or under 21's, so I hope common sense will prevail and he'll be able to play for Nice this season.

by Hapless_Hans Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:57 pm

I agree. It's a bit ridiculous to count one Newcastle U21 game as 'featuring for another club'. Then again it's strange that the rules wouldn't be clear about this and FAs can have different interpretation than FIFA hmm

And then, there's another scenario: Ben Arfa can't join Nice, Newcastle have to reinstate his contract, Garde becomes manager and integrates him well, Ben Arfa starts beasting weekly and the Dear Leader becomes a happy man.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:03 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:I agree. It's a bit ridiculous to count one Newcastle U21 game as 'featuring for another club'. Then again it's strange that the rules wouldn't be clear about this and FAs can have different interpretation than FIFA

And then, there's another scenario: Ben Arfa can't join Nice, Newcastle have to reinstate his contract, Garde becomes manager and integrates him well, Ben Arfa starts beasting weekly and the Dear Leader becomes a happy man.

Don't make me dream Sad

by Hapless_Hans Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:11 pm

RIP Phil Everly

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