Should we buy......

I've been a lont time lurker here and recently joined a few months ago. I have had this question in my mind for some time now. Should we buy a World Class CB in the Winter? and if so, who should we buy?

I believe we should buy one, and in mind I currently have either Dede from from, or the dutch international Douglas. I believe they would both be warriors for our back line, and add a lot of much needed steel.

It depends on who's available. Any CB won't do. If we can get Agger before he re-signs with Liverpool, that would be great. But we don't know what the injury situation will be in a few months. Pique and Puyol might be fit by then. Abidal thinks he will be back by December, so he's another option to consider. In a best case scenario, we wouldn't need to even consider purchasing one.

One thing is for certain though, either Tito starts trying Bartra out now (if not now, when will he get a better chance to start?) or I don't think Tito will count on him for the rest of the season.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:It depends on who's available. Any CB won't do. If we can get Agger before he re-signs with Liverpool, that would be great. But we don't know what the injury situation will be in a few months. Pique and Puyol might be fit by then. Abidal thinks he will be back by December, so he's another option to consider. In a best case scenario, we wouldn't need to even consider purchasing one.

One thing is for certain though, either Tito starts trying Bartra out now (if not now, when will he get a better chance to start?) or I don't think Tito will count on him for the rest of the season.

Sorry to interfere, but Puyol and Abidal are done. They are past it, you should realize that at the moment they are nothing more than average players.

Pique-Masche is you defense for nearly 2 years now.

I didn't realize you worked at the club. I'm willing to give both of them the benefit of the doubt and see how they perform when they come back than write them off already. When Puyol has played this season he has managed to do it at a higher level than Masche.

Agger is overrated. He wouldn't make the bench in real madrid/chelsea etc.

Agger's recently signed a new contract.

Kizu wrote:Sorry to interfere, but Puyol and Abidal are done. They are past it, you should realize that at the moment they are nothing more than average players.

Pique-Masche is you defense for nearly 2 years now.

These guys have passed their peak for sure but calling them average is wrong.

That being said Barcelona should not rely on these two at all. I said that 1.5 seasons ago.

Also *bleep* Agger, typical overrated EPL player. Not to mention injury-prone and expensive.

Dede is probably the way to go if we are to look for a CB though tbh I seriously don't think Tito/Barca will buy a centreback in either the winter of the summer transfer market. Song will improve his game and hopefully Tito will also use Barta more than just Copa del Rey games... Tito will think that will be enough and we also have Abidal coming back from injury as well as Adriano getting that tad bit of experience.. Is it good enough? No. We will be focusing on the attack now. Villa looks like he won't be used as a starter so we may sell him and save our money on a Neymar or some high profile striker...
Im disappionted with this situation. We have been struggling at the back and we still haven't sorted out the situation...

Winter probably not but I'm pretty sure you'll sign a CB in summer, especially if you don't win La Liga/Champions League.

Don't really understand why you signed Song. Should have saved the money for next year. I can understand you may be able to convert a good DM to a CB but he wasn't ever a good DM to start with.

danyjr wrote:Winter probably not but I'm pretty sure you'll sign a CB in summer, especially if you don't win La Liga/Champions League.

Don't really understand why you signed Song. Should have saved the money for next year. I can understand you may be able to convert a good DM to a CB but he wasn't ever a good DM to start with.

Massive understatement there. I feel he is at least top 6 best defensive midfielders. Never had the abilities to be a centreback tbh. Bad positioning and lace of pace. Two of many elements that centrebacks should have.

Most top European CBs are cup tied and won't be available in the winter

I say we go for Dede from Vasco

Should we? Yes.

Will we? Looking at Barcelona's activity in the January transfer window in recent seasons, I doubt it. Especially a high profile deal like a WC CB would be.

^ this
also we should have bought Shalke's Papadopoulos. Great value for money

The other day the VP confirmed we won't buy anyone in January. Bartra and Abidal are our only hope.

BarcaKizz wrote:The other day the VP confirmed we won't buy anyone in January. Bartra and Abidal are our only hope.

Tito knows of no such player

Abidal is a pipe dream...No one knows what he could offer, should he miraculously find a way back onto the pitch...Never say never with Eric but this isn't a smart way to play the season

Bartra is a wildcard and we'll soon see whether he can give the depth many hope he can/will

FCBarça wrote:Abidal is a pipe dream...No one knows what he could offer, should he miraculously find a way back onto the pitch...Never say never with Eric but this isn't a smart way to play the season

Bartra is a wildcard and we'll soon see whether he can give the depth many hope he can/will

Thank you Einstein... Nonetheless they are our only hope unless we want to get stuck with Masch, Song and Adriano as our CBs...

Dede has been mentioned in previous months on this forum. I don't actually watch the Brazilian league, but I've tried to watch a good amount of footage to at least get a decent idea about him and price/quality wise he seems to be one of the best (probably the best) option out there for us. I would be very pleased if we'd take a risk with him.

On the other hand I read about Twente's Douglas. I don't like the guy for us. I don't think he has the quality (most probably will never play for a top European team as his overall defensive capabilities are just good) and he has a nack for grabbing cards. I'd pass. Seems like a decent player for Newcastle, Tottenham, Espanyol, something like that. BTW, he can hardly be called a Dutch international. Sure, he's been called up for the first time to play the game against Andorra and Romania, but that's just because Mathijsen isn't fit.

Dede wouldn't be cheap. He just signed a 5 year contract a few months ago. I'm guessing upwards of 20M - but none of the attractive alternatives would cost less.

Yeah, I was thinking about 15-20M tops. He's a defender and only proved himself in Brazil so anything above that would be redonculous. If you compare that to current prices in Europe, the overall price/quality would be good (provided he doesn't do a Chiggy).

LOL at Puyol being done. On his day, when fit, you cant name 5 guys you would rather have.

Anyway, this is pointless. We arent going to do shit, we never do.

You want a centre back who is good on the ball, fast and has aerial presence for €20 million lol With teams like PSG, Madrid and City who pay €40 million for benchwarmers, good luck finding a world class CB for €20 million.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Dede wouldn't be cheap. He just signed a 5 year contract a few months ago. I'm guessing upwards of 20M - but none of the attractive alternatives would cost less.

His release clause is around 13-15M.

I doubt you guys are getting him since Neymar will be bought soon (idk how many foreigner spots you guys have)

The only foreigner at Barca is Alexis Sanchez and he might not make it past the season, especially if Neymar comes.

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