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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:09 am

That's the thing if Pato was anywhere near where he should be right now it wouldn't even be a debate it would be Oscar-Neymar-Pato and it would f*cking kick some serious ass.

Unfortunately he hasn't and due to lack of actual CF's i would seriously consider Neymar as a fake 9 with an AM and SS or an inside forward hovering around him.


Also Art i have always considered international football more of a coaches job and there be hardly be managerial attributes needed.

And he's always been a fantastic coach in my view and his international record speaks for itself and most of poor recent performances have come at club level which i don't feel he's suited to.

Also can't Lucas and Fernandinho operate together? Fernandinho seems more of a Kleberson player although much better IMO while Lucas is more of a Gilberto.

Of course there's quite a few options but IMO Fernandinho should not be competing with Lucas as they quite different.

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Post by McLewis Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:29 am

Bit of a predictable move honestly from the CBF. They're turning to someone who is tried, true and trusted and based on this side has looked under Manezes, can't say I disagree with it.

Think Leandro Castan and Dante should get mentions at CB. Roma may not have the best defense, but individually Castan has been a standout performer. I also hear tell he was great for Corinthians as well. I've seen a fair amount of Dante this season and the dude looks pretty secure at the back. He doesn't carry the ball forward much like Lucio is famous for, but he's a pretty dominant CB aerially and reads the game so much better than Luiz.

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Post by McAgger Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:51 am

Dante is getting no love. He's a beast CB.

-----------------D.Alves---------------
------------Silva---------Dante---------
------------------Luiz------------------
---Dani.A---L.Leiva---Hernanes--Marcelo-
---------------Kaka/Oscar------------
----------Neymar-----Hulk/Pato-------

This would be a BAWS lineup.
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Post by elitedam Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:06 am

I guess we're gonna have to wait until the we play our first friendly under Felipao (I think it's in February) to get a sense of what he is planning. We don't know what formation he will use and what players he will call up.

The WC is year and a half away so a lot can change until then. We'll have to watch factors such as Lucas Leiva coming back from two serious injuries, the development of Lucas Moura, will players get snubbed, and etc. Also Kaka has to get out of Madrid if he wants a shot at playing at the WC. I will be very surprised if Pato or Ganso come back into the national team picture. I'm also curious about Dante as he's not that well known in Brasil.
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Post by McAgger Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:02 am

Arquitecto wrote:^^^^^

3 GOAT posters with a Kasanova avatar up top. :bow: :bow:

Not creepy at all :coffee:

I had no idea we were going viral with this thing :bow:
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Post by Catracho Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:57 pm

Dante isn't better than Dede.. not in a million years.

Fernandinho can't operate with Lucas, because Paulinho is better than Fernandinho when it comes to that segundo volante position, he's actually muc h better than Fernandinho.
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Post by Ganso Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:27 pm

Goleiros
Diego Alves (Valencia)
Julio César (Queens Park Rangers)

Laterais

Daniel Alves (Barcelona)
Adriano (Barcelona)
Filipe Luis (Atlético de Madri)

Zagueiros

Dante (Bayern de Munique)
David Luiz (Chelsea)
Leandro Castán (Roma)
Miranda (Atlético de Madri)

Volantes

Arouca (Santos)
Hernanes (Lazio)
Paulinho (Corinthians)
Ramires (Chelsea)

Meias

Oscar (Chelsea)
Ronaldinho Gaúcho (Atlético-MG)

Atacantes

Neymar (Santos)
Lucas (PSG)
Luis Fabiano (São Paulo)
Fred (Fluminense)
Hulk (Zenit)

probable team vs Engerland

-------------Cesar----------------
-Alves---Dante---Luiz---Filipe Luis
---Paulinho--Ramires-Hernanes
-------------Ronaldinho--------------
-----L. Fabiano/Fred---Nerman----

Beautiful (bar Cesar)
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Post by urbaNRoots Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:30 pm

What happened to Man Utd's Rafael?
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Post by Vlad the Impaler Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:31 pm

Where are Rafael & Danilo? Shocked

... Willian & Fernandinho? affraid
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:33 pm

The forward options are still lacking IMO.

Fabiano, Hulk and Fred is meh, rest of the team is pretty sexy though.
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Post by Ganso Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:40 pm

Rafael won't come back to the nt at least until post 2014.His mistake at the Olympics final got everyone fuming. @mole, Fred and Luis fabiano can score,and that's all we need,Fred saved us in copa America and never got credit for it.I'm still jizzing over Dante and hernanes
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:43 pm

Ronaldinho starting? Neutral
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Post by Ganso Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:48 pm

Ronaldinho is slow and cant dribble but he is a amazing playmaker,even in his milan days he made goat passes.Not to mention FK taking and corners
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:55 pm

About f*cking time Luis Filipe gets in there, he and marcelo are a lock for LB ffs. stop to kid around the position with noobs.

Death of the DM lol.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:The forward options are still lacking IMO.

Fabiano, Hulk and Fred is meh, rest of the team is pretty sexy though.

except Damiao they dont have any better tho
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Post by The Franchise Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:55 pm

I like that team, some players in there like Filipe Luis, Hernanes and Arouca who I think can do a good job.

Not sure about Ronaldinho long term, not sure about Miranda (though he has done better under Simone) and I dont know about Fred either.

Fabiano is proven, I know what he can do, I have no problems with that.

Thiago Silva injured?

Yeah, its decent, ill take that.
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Post by Ganso Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:57 pm

Catracho wrote:Dante isn't better than Dede.. not in a million years.

Laughing Dante is one the best CBs in the world and the best in the Bundesliga
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Post by The Franchise Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:58 pm

And why are people down on Hulk? Because he gone off to racist Zenit?

He can still play, he done well for Brazil in my opinion. Heck, he has done well whenever he at a place they treat him like a footballer.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:00 pm

Miranda wont be there when Thiago comes back.

Scolari wont go to the WC without a veteran presence. I suppose Kaka and Roni would compete for that job, so Kaka should beg Corinthians to bid for him lol.

I suppose Damiao is injured, so one of Fred or Fabiano will jump out as well.

just a 20 man team so there is room anyway
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Post by urbaNRoots Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:00 pm

Ganso wrote:
Laughing Dante is one the best CBs in the world and the best in the Bundesliga [/quote]

Agreed, man is a beast and very underrated when speaking of the best CB's in the world even though he's definitely up there with the best. "Thiago Silva - Dante" must be the best duo in the world.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:13 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:About f*cking time Luis Filipe gets in there, he and marcelo are a lock for LB ffs. stop to kid around the position with noobs.

Death of the DM lol.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:The forward options are still lacking IMO.

Fabiano, Hulk and Fred is meh, rest of the team is pretty sexy though.

except Damiao they dont have any better tho

Tbf though if that is the case wouldn't it make more sense to call up more attacking midfielders and just play Neymar as a fake 9?

No point using a 2 striker system if you lack quality strikers.
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Post by Gil Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:18 pm

Fake 9 doesn't work. Only 2 players have ever mastered that position.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:23 pm

Gil wrote:Fake 9 doesn't work. Only 2 players have ever mastered that position.

Cruyff, Zico, Messi and Totti..... there's 4 names and there's probably many more.
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Post by LeBéninois Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:34 pm

I have been impressed by Dante .

Am i wrong or he wasn't that good before because i never heard about him

Silva-Dante :bow:
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Post by BAYERN_MUNICH Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:44 pm

Ganso wrote:
Catracho wrote:Dante isn't better than Dede.. not in a million years.

Laughing Dante is one the best CBs in the world and the best in the Bundesliga

this :bow:

Dante is our best CB since Lucio
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Post by Ganso Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:01 pm

Cf>>>>>>false 9 imo
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Post by Catracho Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:08 pm

Ganso wrote:
Catracho wrote:Dante isn't better than Dede.. not in a million years.

Laughing Dante is one the best CBs in the world and the best in the Bundesliga

but not better than Dede.. Dede >>>>> Dante
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