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Post by Mr Nick09 on Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:19 pm

Moal is right, we need Tiote

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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by ExtremistEnigma on Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:21 pm

Ancelotti's Milan had Ambrosini, Gattuso, Pirlo and Seedorf in the midfield.. how is that weak defensively?
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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:22 pm

@S wrote:Carlo's Milan champions league winning side(s) had a top back 4.Just saying.
Has nothing to do with the back 4.....

The midfield of Pirlo-Gattuso-Seedorf-Kaka was very weak defensively and so is this Madrid team.

The defense will get zero cover just like that team did, expecting the likes of Isco, Ozil and Modric to be able to defend to an acceptable standard is delusional.

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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by ES on Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:23 pm

Pirlo-----Gattuso-----Seedorf

We even fielded Kaladze at LB some times lol

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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by S on Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:26 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@S wrote:Carlo's Milan champions league winning side(s) had a top back 4.Just saying.
Has nothing to do with the back 4.....

The midfield of Pirlo-Gattuso-Seedorf-Kaka was very weak defensively and so is this Madrid team.

The defense will get zero cover just like that team did, expecting the likes of Isco, Ozil and Modric to be able to defend to an acceptable standard is delusional.
The 2007 winning team had Ambrosini play regularly.He played many knockout games if i remember correctly.

Infact i remember even Ambrosini captained the side against Man United at the San Siro.


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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by ES on Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:28 pm

@S wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@S wrote:Carlo's Milan champions league winning side(s) had a top back 4.Just saying.
Has nothing to do with the back 4.....

The midfield of Pirlo-Gattuso-Seedorf-Kaka was very weak defensively and so is this Madrid team.

The defense will get zero cover just like that team did, expecting the likes of Isco, Ozil and Modric to be able to defend to an acceptable standard is delusional.
The 2007 winning team had Ambrosini play regularly.He played many knockout games if i remember correctly.
Pretty sure Gattuso started against Celtic iirc

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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by CBarca on Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:28 pm

Since I was interested myself, I found a graphic of Spurs spend this summer and last and I'd be willing to post if anyone is interested. Spurs have a net spend of -35 million pounds this summer. If you add the surplus from last summer (about 10 million pounds after Holtby and Zeki fryers being bought in January), the the net spend is about -25 million pounds. Minus 3 million pounds for a GDS sell on clause, Spurs have spent roughly 22 million pounds and so are -22 million net this summer.

80 pounds to be received for Bale minus 22 million, Spurs should have 58 million pounds to spend to break even if we take the last two summers into account.

I've been on both sides of the selling Bale debate myself, but I think selling Bale is best for the club.

As for whether it helps Madrid (something I'd obviously be concerned with), I'm not convinced he's going to be a star at Madrid. I'm not convinced he's the player they need, and I think they're spending silly money on a player who could disrupt squad harmony not by his attitude but by his simple presence. That being said, he is a game winner.
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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by S on Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:29 pm

And Seedorf was playing higher up in the 4-3-2-1

It was Pirlo-Ambrosini-Gattuso-Kaka-Seedorf-Pippo in a 4-3-2-1 if i remember correctly.

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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by Albiceleste on Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:33 pm

spuds would be out of their minds to not sell him

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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by ES on Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:35 pm

How much was he bought for? 5m ?

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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by halamadrid2 on Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:37 pm

I think they already have but are waiting to get the replacements before they make it official

as usual Perez waits for the other team to finish their business before he gets his and grossly overpays to get them. Carlo anyone

so annoying that man, would do anything for other teams to like him
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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by TalkingReckless on Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:37 pm

El Shaarawy wrote:How much was he bought for? 5m ?
7mil

it wasn't too long ago when Bale was considered a flop (playing LB back then) and was almost gone to B'ham

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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by S on Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:38 pm

Butt wrote:
El Shaarawy wrote:How much was he bought for? 5m ?
7mil

it wasn't too long ago when Bale was considered a flop (playing LB back then) and was almost gone to B'ham
Lot of Italian clubs were interested in him too at the time especially Milan.

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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by Mr Nick09 on Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:42 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:I think they already have but are waiting to get the replacements before they make it official

as usual Perez waits for the other team to finish their business before he gets his and grossly overpays to get them. Carlo anyone

so annoying that man, would do anything for other teams to like him
what? that's pretty much clubs agreeing among each other how things will proceed.

PSG: you want Carlo? let us find a replacement first
Spurs: you want Bale? let us find his replacements first

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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by halamadrid2 on Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:47 pm

clubs??

this is Perez wanting himself too look like a saint in other teams eyes, all the while having not an umpth of consideration what that might do to our preparation/team chemistry. i know he doesn't want to burn bridges but for the amount he is going for the least Perez should do is bring him in before preseason started so he can actually train with us before the season starts instead of doing a Modric and not train during preseaso ontop of that will have the pressure of being worlds most expensive player. colour me unimpressed
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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by Mr Nick09 on Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:57 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:clubs??

this is Perez wanting himself too look like a saint in other teams eyes, all the while having not an umpth of consideration what that might do to our preparation/team chemistry. i know he doesn't want to burn bridges but for the amount he is going for the least Perez should do is bring him in before preseason started so he can actually train with us before the season starts instead of doing a Modric and not train during preseaso ontop of that will have the pressure of being worlds most expensive player. colour me unimpressed
lol, perez doesnt decide when the player he wants to sign arrive, the selling clubs do. For reasons that escape the both of us, negotiations can take as long as 2 months in some cases. You think Ancelotti and Perez wouldnt have rather signed him earlier? or that AVB wouldnt have wanted all this to be sorted out earlier so that he can prepare his team? This is not perez saying, oh let's wait the very last day of the transfer market to sign him...

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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by Djcomplain on Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:15 pm

this Poor Man Mourinho will so fail with tactic
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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by danyjr on Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:19 pm

I can't believe Madrid are actually doing this. You could argue he'd be worth that amount if he had repeated last season for 2-3 years. But as it stands, he is currently just a hot prospect but one with high risk. No doubt he's a great player having finished a superb season but spending €100+ million for a player who is nowhere as good as Cristiano, nor as profitable is plain stupid and I think it is all down to the obsession of the Madrid president with him and pushing for the tenth Champions League trophy.

I don't really see this Welshman having a career proportional to his price tag in La Liga. He is made for EPL and had Mourinho stayed, I would have given him more chance to succeed at a Madrid team that played more of an English game than Spanish.

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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by LeSwagg James on Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:44 am

We better win La Decima this year or the next, if not then there should be protests at the steps of the Bernabeu! Massive uproar I tell ya!

Bale better pick up a Ballon D'or while he's here for good measure smoking

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Post by Doc on Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:54 am

I have no beef with Bale if he comes, none whatsoever. It's Perez and upper management who would get all my blame if such a thing does not pan out...

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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by LeSwagg James on Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:01 am

@Doc wrote:I have no beef with Bale if he comes, none whatsoever. It's Perez and upper management who would get all my blame if such a thing does not pan out...
It's the price tag that I have a problem with.. I love my Galactico's but what we're paying is wayyyyy too much

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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by Kamikaze692 on Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:53 am

If bale does make it, the pressure to perform may just bee too much for someone who is yet to be exposed to regular CL football.
The fans at the Bernabeu are not too patient either..
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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by Onyx on Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:53 pm

Coentrao couldn't agree a deal with Tottenham, so Real Madrid will pay €109m, according to Gazzetta dello Sport.

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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by Firenze on Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:58 pm

Worst deal in the history of the game
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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by S on Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:59 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Coentrao couldn't agree a deal with Tottenham
Marotta pls hijack this transfer.. :coffee:

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Re: Gareth Bale Transfer Saga V.2

Post by Natalie Portman on Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:02 pm

Gutted a massive talent like Bale is leaving the PL.


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