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Post by Kick Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:48 am

All figures taken from here.

Gross spending:
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The amount Cardiff spent! Shocked
Net Spent:
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Spurs with that Profit. :bow:

Brazilians cost more:
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Cost per age:
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Cost Per position:
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Bonus round, players from La Liga:
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Over 1/6th of the total spent was on players from La liga! crazy!
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Post by Grooverider Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:08 pm

i would really like to see these guys get relegated
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Post by Lex Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:18 pm

Tottenham rofl Spent £106 million just to beat us in the NLD...........and still failed
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Post by Lex Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:20 pm

I'd also love to know what two Greek players were bought lol
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Post by Art Morte Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:03 pm

Well, Newcastle got Remy on loan and kept hold of Cabaye and Ben Arfa. So it wasn't a catastrophic window for them, although still pretty bad.

Lex wrote:I'd also love to know what two Greek players were bought lol
Sunderland bought this young Mavrias dude, don't know who is the other.
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Post by Gil Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:40 pm

Why so fans always think every window is a failure if money isn't spent? Isn't it better to spend it on the right players rather than going after second choice talent?

The obsession with spending in the PL is why players aren't coming through academies. Ironically, it's Arsenal who are producing the best English talent at the moment yet suffer the most backlash from the media, the common fan and even their own.

Then after every bad England result wankers will begin to complain/moan about the state of English football and bore the rest of us who have a clue to death.
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Post by ExtremistEnigma Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:52 pm

Gil wrote:Why so fans always think every window is a failure if money isn't spent? Isn't it better to spend it on the right players rather than going after second choice talent?

The obsession with spending in the PL is why players aren't coming through academies. Ironically, it's Arsenal who are producing the best English talent at the moment yet suffer the most backlash from the media, the common fan and even their own.

Then after every bad England result wankers will begin to complain/moan about the state of English football and bore the rest of us who have a clue to death.
Not sure if serious.
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Post by Swanhends Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:59 pm

Baffles me that 28 year olds get the highest transfer fees on average

Is there an outlier thats skewing that average?

For most players, price should peak at 25/26 IMO, after that it should be a slow decline
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Post by REWB Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:10 pm

ExtremistEnigma wrote:
Gil wrote:Why so fans always think every window is a failure if money isn't spent? Isn't it better to spend it on the right players rather than going after second choice talent?

The obsession with spending in the PL is why players aren't coming through academies. Ironically, it's Arsenal who are producing the best English talent at the moment yet suffer the most backlash from the media, the common fan and even their own.

Then after every bad England result wankers will begin to complain/moan about the state of English football and bore the rest of us who have a clue to death.
Not sure if serious.
id say liverpool are producing the most english youngsters but arsenal are bring through the most young english players to perform at the top level. bar wisdom and sterling most of the young english academy grads like flano/kelly will be moved on imo.
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Post by Gil Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:25 pm

ExtremistEnigma wrote:
Gil wrote:Why so fans always think every window is a failure if money isn't spent? Isn't it better to spend it on the right players rather than going after second choice talent?

The obsession with spending in the PL is why players aren't coming through academies. Ironically, it's Arsenal who are producing the best English talent at the moment yet suffer the most backlash from the media, the common fan and even their own.

Then after every bad England result wankers will begin to complain/moan about the state of English football and bore the rest of us who have a clue to death.
Not sure if serious.
What?

Who are Liverpool producing? Sterling who won't get a game this season or Jay Spearing?
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Post by ExtremistEnigma Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:29 pm

When did I say that?

Of the English youngsters Arsenal have, only Wilshere and Gibbs have properly emerged from the academy. Walcott and Chamberlain were bought for some good money.

Yanited have been constantly producing talents like Welbeck and Cleverley. Not to mention they have other Britishers like Evans, Fletcher as well. Better than Arsenal.

A few years back we had one of the most pathetic academies but now we've improved immensely, credits to Rafa. There's Gerrard, Sterling, Ibe, Kelly, Wisdom who have emerged from our academy that are part of our first team. In addition to them, there's Coady, Sinclair, Morgan and McLaughlin (though Northern Irish) who are interesting prospects as well. Flanagan, Morgan most likely won't make the cut and perhaps even Wisdom as well with the influx of new CBs but Sterling, Ibe, Kelly are here to stay.

Anyways, Sterling has had 2 appearances this season already. Laughing He's just 18.. you expect him to start every game?
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Post by Lex Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:41 pm

First of all, Jordon Ibe has made one premier league appearance since December 2011, so don't know why he's being mentioned here as part of Liverpool's fledgling core of English players. Secondly, he was bought from Wycombe Wonderers, so he's not even a product of 'Pool's academy



ExtremistEnigma wrote:Not to mention they have other Britishers like Evans, Fletcher as well
Don't know why you're bringing Irish and Scottish players into a debate about English players, but whatever..........
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Post by Busby Babe Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:29 pm

Swanhends wrote:Baffles me that 28 year olds get the highest transfer fees on average

Is there an outlier thats skewing that average?

For most players, price should peak at 25/26 IMO, after that it should be a slow decline
From the top of my head, Fernandino and Soldado most likely.
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Post by ExtremistEnigma Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:36 pm

Lex wrote:First of all, Jordon Ibe has made one premier league appearance since December 2011, so don't know why he's being mentioned here as part of Liverpool's fledgling core of English players. Secondly, he was bought from Wycombe Wonderers, so he's not even a product of 'Pool's academy
Ibe is one of our highly rated prospects, he was rated higher than Sterling before the latter got his break and still is. He's much more technically gifted than Sterling and his decision making in final third is better as well. It's just a matter of time when he breaks out.

If we go by your logic, then Wilshere was brought in from Luton Town and Gibbs from Wimbledon. Majority of the academy players these days are snatched from lower clubs or the other.

Lex wrote:Don't know why you're bringing Irish and Scottish players into a debate about English players, but whatever....
Because they are home-grown players? scratch
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Post by che Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:24 pm

Swanhends wrote:Baffles me that 28 year olds get the highest transfer fees on average

Is there an outlier thats skewing that average?
soldado and negredo both for 25+... dem release clauses
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Post by BeautifulGame Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:09 pm

Southampton is the best academy when it comes to producing English/British players atm.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:48 pm

Art Morte wrote:Well, Newcastle got Remy on loan and kept hold of Cabaye and Ben Arfa. So it wasn't a catastrophic window for them, although still pretty bad.
Disagree.... it was more than catastrophic.

But i'm used to this by now, Ashley won't spend anything from his own wallet or otherwise unless his investment is under threat.... i.e. relegation.

I know exactly why as well, but none the less it never gets any less embarassing.
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Post by Art Morte Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:40 pm

You could have done with another CF and a defender, but just not getting them doesn't make the window catastrophic (or worse). You also didn't lose any players you wanted to keep. The squad as it is should have enough class for a mid-table finish, whether Pardew can get the best out if it is another matter.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:32 pm

Heres where i'm going to disagree again lol.

We don't need a defender personally, what we need is width and creativity.
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Post by Art Morte Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:29 am

Well, isn't Remy going to be playing as a winger or wide forward or whatever, with Cisse remaining the center-forward? And Gouffran, too? I'm sure Marveaux and Obertan leave something to be desired for, but they're not hopeless.

Sissoko, Cabaye and Ben Arfa should be able to create something in midfield.

I thought you could do with full-back cover, because after Santon and Debuchy your options don't look great and the same goes for center-forward, but I don't believe an upgrade on your wide options should have been first priority.
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