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Post by Winter is Coming Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:23 pm

Fußball wrote:3-3-3-1


Suarez
Nerman Messi Reus
Iniesta Busquets Rakitic
Mathieu Pique Mascherano

:coffee:

Come home, Reus. Proud

Hapless_Hans wrote:You cannot sign players.


That's technically untrue. Barca can sign players. Just can't register them for official Fifa competitions. :coffee:


Isn't the only FIFA competition Club World Cup? Or does La Liga fall under this?

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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:25 pm

Reus is off to Mehdrid. Don't worry though, he's always injured.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:26 pm

Winter is Coming wrote:
Fußball wrote:3-3-3-1


Suarez
Nerman Messi Reus
Iniesta Busquets Rakitic
Mathieu Pique Mascherano

:coffee:

Come home, Reus. Proud

Hapless_Hans wrote:You cannot sign players.


That's technically untrue. Barca can sign players. Just can't register them for official Fifa competitions. :coffee:


Isn't the only FIFA competition Club World Cup? Or does La Liga fall under this?


Sure it does. You could buy Reus and Gündogan and they could keep fit for half a year in the Catalan league though, sure that's just what they envision for their career hmm
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Post by Winter is Coming Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:27 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:Reus is off to Mehdrid. Don't worry though, he's always injured.


Reus knows he can get into Madrid XI not Barca Laughing
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Post by Winter is Coming Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:28 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Winter is Coming wrote:
Fußball wrote:3-3-3-1


Suarez
Nerman Messi Reus
Iniesta Busquets Rakitic
Mathieu Pique Mascherano

:coffee:

Come home, Reus. Proud




That's technically untrue. Barca can sign players. Just can't register them for official Fifa competitions. :coffee:


Isn't the only FIFA competition Club World Cup? Or does La Liga fall under this?


Sure it does. You could buy Reus and Gündogan and they could keep fit for half a year in the Catalan league though, sure that's just what they envision for their career hmm


A dream come true for both to play in the Catalan league Proud
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Post by futbol Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:32 pm

"Fifa competition" was maybe the wrong expression. Fifa itself as an institution only organizes the CWC in club football of course but the national football federations are all part of Fifa. It's like Fifa's imposed ban on Suarez in La Liga although La Liga is not a "Fifa competition": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FIFA_Member_Associations

That why:

Barcelona's transfer ban only prevents them from registering players. The club can sign players but they can't play until January 2016. [md]

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Post by Winter is Coming Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:34 pm

Ahh, so we can loan them also?
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Post by futbol Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:37 pm

Winter is Coming wrote:Ahh, so we can loan them also?


Loaning yes but I think loaned players still need a registration to play so it's pointless. They won't be able to play but theoretically Barca can buy players.

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Post by Winter is Coming Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:42 pm

I see. Tho pointless, but its good to know we can still get players to sign up, probably no big name, but still.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:42 pm

Fußball wrote:
Winter is Coming wrote:Ahh, so we can loan them also?


Loaning yes but I think loaned players still need a registration to play so it's pointless. They won't be able to play but theoretically Barca can buy players.


that's what I was wondering actually.
What kind of registration would players you want to loan out require?
If for example, you buy Gündogan in summer but agree with him and Dortmund that he stays loaned out at Dortmund for another year, would that be possible? Would he have to be registered as a Barca player before it's possible to make a temporary transfer (from Barca to BVB)?
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Post by futbol Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:51 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Fußball wrote:
Winter is Coming wrote:Ahh, so we can loan them also?


Loaning yes but I think loaned players still need a registration to play so it's pointless. They won't be able to play but theoretically Barca can buy players.


that's what I was wondering actually.
What kind of registration would players you want to loan out require?
If for example, you buy Gündogan in summer but agree with him and Dortmund that he stays loaned out at Dortmund for another year, would that be possible? Would he have to be registered as a Barca player before it's possible to make a temporary transfer (from Barca to BVB)?

Good question. I don't know if that would be possible but practically I think a situation like that would be solved in a different way anyway where Barca and Dortmund just agree with a precontract that Gündogan will move in January 2016 instead of August 2015. Same outcome as buying and loaning back.

Dortmund won't make the CL next season either which means their players won't be Cup tied in the winter window. Come home Dortmund's entire squad. Proud

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Post by Katy Perry Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:56 pm

I do think Barca needs another forward, if not Royce someone as good as him.

There's an abyss between Messi/Suarez/Neymar and Pedro/Munir/Sandro, so if one of them gets injured Barca will suffer badly, plus Enrique can't make a proper offensive sub-impact or try an offensive-minded 4-2-3-1.
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Post by windkick Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:08 pm

i thought under the ban we were only allowed to loan out players, but not have players loaned our way. For example next summer we could be allowed to loan out Halilovic and Adama, and Deulofeu probably, but we won't be allowed for any players from other clubs come our way in any form of way.

Now the loop hole could be the B team. For example, we are obviously still allowed to summon players from our B team since we have already called up Halilovic, Adama, Munir and Sandro for some games, and this after the ban went into affect. So could we sign players in the summer to the B team (with an agreement to full promotion after one year), and then just summon the player up from the B team to the first team the entire season?
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Post by windkick Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:12 pm

Katy Perry wrote:I do think Barca needs another forward, if not Royce someone as good as him.

There's an abyss between Messi/Suarez/Neymar and Pedro/Munir/Sandro, so if one of them gets injured Barca will suffer badly, plus Enrique can't make a proper offensive sub-impact or try an offensive-minded 4-2-3-1.


I agree, someone who can come in and add something different from the bench. Problem is, would a player of Reus's caliber want to come here to rotate off the bench? Also would Neymar/Suarez be ok with losing minutes?
Likely not, which is why the team probably sticks with Pedro year in and year out. He is ok coming off the bench and being a utility guy, plus can equally play off both wings. A guy like Munir would be good....but he won't be ready for that role for another couple years at the soonest. He's still too green

Kind of leaves us in pickle, but nothing some careful scouting wouldn't be able to fix. That type of guy must be out there, doesn't have to be a super star like Reus. Problem is we can't scout for shit lol
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:40 pm

Every competition is a FIFA competition.
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Post by Donuts Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:44 pm

I have more faith in our future players

Neymar(munir/deulofeu)------Suarez(sandro/lee)-------Messi(deulofeu/adama)
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----------Iniesta(rafinha/alen)--------------------Rakitic(Rafinha/alen
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-------------------------------Buscuit(mascherano/Samper)
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-Alba(grimaldo)---Mathiue(Verm)-------Pique(Bartra)-----------Montoya(????/adama)
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----------------------------------Bravo(MatS)

Reus would be overkill i mean unless he is fine starting off the bench then cool but i doubt it.
we strongly need a right back though...
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:46 pm

I'm sorry, but since when is Adama a defender scratch
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Post by Donuts Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:50 pm

he can be our last resort defender.. he has high work rate and looks like a freaking beast for a kid who just turned 19
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our rb doesn't really have to be that great at defending anyways.. he's basically a right midfielder who attacks more then defends..

i mean we've played pedro there against psg.. and it seemed to work out Laughing
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Post by free_cat Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:20 am

Donuts wrote:he can be our last resort defender.. he has high work rate and looks like a freaking beast for a kid who just turned 19
Spoiler:

our rb doesn't really have to be that great at defending anyways.. he's basically a right midfielder who attacks more then defends..

i mean we've played pedro there against psg.. and it seemed to work out Laughing


I really agree here. I hope someone converts Adama into a RB, I think he could shine there. He has the pace, quickness, dribling, and crossing skills to make him a world beater when attacking; and the pace, quickness, stamina, workrate and strength to be good enough when defending.

One punctualization, Pedro didn't really play as RB vs. PSG as we played with 3 CB and Pedro and Neymar in the wings.
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Post by futbol Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:07 pm

Porto want 40M for right back Danilo (23). Barcelona could pay 30M, winger Cristian Tello (23), on loan at Porto, could be included. [sport]

hmm

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:47 pm

Sidekick Nerman telling Messi who to sign now Proud
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Post by Donuts Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:05 pm

i don't know much of danilo.. is he any good?
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Post by Kick Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:42 am

30m for Danilo? Laughing

He aint worth that.
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Post by Donuts Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:02 am

tbh we're pretty desperate i expect us to waste a lot for a rb
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:06 am

Good thing we can't waste until Laporta/Benito take over Proud
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Post by futbol Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:10 am

Kick wrote:30m for Danilo? Laughing

He aint worth that.


Maybe we're valuing Tello @ 20M. Tello + € 10M. I'm in for that. hmm

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