Re: Torres Appreciation Thread

by Red Alert Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:26 am

Torres in, Rodgers loses his job, Torres scapegoat etc, Torres leaves back to CHelsea after 6 months, Rafa in? hmm

by McAgger Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:23 am

Dante

Top 5 GL poster imo :bow:

by Art Morte Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:44 am

Shed wrote:
Dante wrote:Some cases are on Torres only, most on his teammates and above all on his coach, who's certainly hasn't proved to be a positive influence on him, not so far at least.

Ancelotti, AVB, Di Matteo, Benitez, Mourinho, Inzaghi. They all just so happened to be having the same negative effect on him and his form, one after the other, and without fail, huh? Some of them the best managers on the planet.

The difference is that Torres is now at Milan, which is below Chelsea's quality. Ancelotti, AVB, Di Matteo, Benitez, Mourinho, these coaches dropping or unfavouring Torres for Chelsea isn't the same thing as when he's at AC Milan. No disrespect to Milan. But I think those coaches would give Torres more chances if they were in charge of this Milan team.

by Shed Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:55 pm

Art Morte wrote:
Shed wrote:
Dante wrote:Some cases are on Torres only, most on his teammates and above all on his coach, who's certainly hasn't proved to be a positive influence on him, not so far at least.

Ancelotti, AVB, Di Matteo, Benitez, Mourinho, Inzaghi. They all just so happened to be having the same negative effect on him and his form, one after the other, and without fail, huh? Some of them the best managers on the planet.

The difference is that Torres is now at Milan, which is below Chelsea's quality. Ancelotti, AVB, Di Matteo, Benitez, Mourinho, these coaches dropping or unfavouring Torres for Chelsea isn't the same thing as when he's at AC Milan. No disrespect to Milan. But I think those coaches would give Torres more chances if they were in charge of this Milan team.

Another one totally missing the point.

You can't say 'Inzaghi and the players are the main reason Torres is playing poorly because he's not being made to feel warm and fuzzy enough and not getting enough service', while at the same time completely and totally ignoring all the instances where he was undisputed first choice, where did play with infinitely better players, where he did have superb service, and where he did play under managers who unquestionably knew what they were doing, and still looked like a hunk of shit.

It's actually remarkable that we're still having this conversation; that we're pretending there's actually some debate still to be had; that there are actually people who believe that his 5 years of utter uselessness regardless the club, manager, or players around him is somehow anyone's fault but his own. Beggar's belief.

World Cup-winning manager and team, multiple Champions League winners, League title out the rear, best coaches in the world, best players in the world, yet still utter shite throughout.....but yes, it's Inzaghi and Menez's fault he's not playing well rofl

by LeSwagg James Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:22 pm

Lol Torres.. This guy has been scrubing it up for like 4 years now..

That's almost half a decade of consecutive scrubness ffs

by Shed Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:38 pm

LeSwagg James wrote:Lol Torres.. This guy has been scrubing it up for like 4 years now..

That's almost half a decade of consecutive scrubness ffs

All Inzaghi and Menez's fault Itellya.

by LeSwagg James Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:53 pm

Shed wrote:
LeSwagg James wrote:Lol Torres.. This guy has been scrubing it up for like 4 years now..

That's almost half a decade of consecutive scrubness ffs

All Inzaghi and Menez's fault Itellya.

I'll continue to stick to the theory I came up with a while back, that someone banged his wife :coffee:

by Dante Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:46 am

sigh ..

the Chelsea burn when it comes to Torres is impossibly strong , why did i even bother Laughing

by VendettaRed07 Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:01 am

Shed wrote:
Art Morte wrote:
Shed wrote:

Ancelotti, AVB, Di Matteo, Benitez, Mourinho, Inzaghi. They all just so happened to be having the same negative effect on him and his form, one after the other, and without fail, huh? Some of them the best managers on the planet.

The difference is that Torres is now at Milan, which is below Chelsea's quality. Ancelotti, AVB, Di Matteo, Benitez, Mourinho, these coaches dropping or unfavouring Torres for Chelsea isn't the same thing as when he's at AC Milan. No disrespect to Milan. But I think those coaches would give Torres more chances if they were in charge of this Milan team.

Another one totally missing the point.

You can't say 'Inzaghi and the players are the main reason Torres is playing poorly because he's not being made to feellblalblablabalah

Actually it seems like you are missing the point that Dante and Art are talking about if anyone is "missing" anything

It's actually remarkable that we're still having this conversation

Yes. Yes it is

by Curtinho Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:20 pm

http://xtra.liverpoolfc.com/listicles/tony-barrett-lfc-correspondent-for-the-times-reveals-the-8-people-he-s-most-enjoyed-interviewing

My 8 favourite interviewees: Fernando Torres

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Obviously, Liverpool supporters have a different view of Torres now compared to when he was in his prime and although that's entirely understandable, it's also a bit sad because there was a time when they shared a mutual respect and affection that verged on being extraordinary. The first time I discovered just what Liverpool meant to Torres was before the 2-0 win over Inter Milan at Anfield in February 2008.

Torres was still learning English at the time and I was given the opportunity to do the first interview with him in his new language. It took place at a cafe in West Derby, around the corner from Melwood, and although by then he had already established himself as one of English football's most prolific marksmen, he arrived with no entourage and no translator. The interview itself was interesting but it was when the tape was switched off that Torres really came into his own. By then, he'd spoken enough about himself and all he wanted to do was talk about Liverpool, particularly the Kop and what it was like to sit or stand there. An interview that was supposed to take no more than 20 minutes ended up lasting more than an hour, during which his affection for Liverpool became increasingly obvious.

Even though it still hurts how he left I would take him back. Come home El Nino.

by Shed Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:54 pm

It would be just like Liverpool, too, to bring back a shot player on 6 figures a week over nostalgia. Brilliant if it came off.

by hrealmadrid Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:54 pm

Torres looks to be heading home for Christmas

by Red Alert Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:59 am

"Feel good factor" signing. He's done. Similar to Kaka really. Great in his prime, but injuries brought them both down and they both really lived off of hype after that. I just wish Torres recovers mentally. Seems a little depressed. Sad

by fatman123 Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:36 pm

How many rubbish performances for atleti until people on here start complaining about a 'lack of service' again? hmm

by Robespierre Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:44 pm

As I said, he 'd got same scrub impact than Forlan in Serie A

I remind when El Cujo responded me saying Torres is going to rape Serie A Laughing

lmao .

Torres is shit since 2011 , stop.

by futbol Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:03 pm

If Simeone gets him to perform he should receive a manager of the century award or something. I'd rate that achievement higher than winning La Liga with Atleti.

by Kaladin Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:36 pm

Fußball wrote:If Simeone gets him to perform he should receive a manager of the century award or something. I'd rate that achievement higher than winning La Liga with Atleti.

He's going back to his old stomping ground, could very well contribute consistently hmm

by Casciavit Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:49 pm

Why does this guy keep getting chances at good teams?

He's *bleep* awful. Honestly can't believe Atletico gave us Cerci for Torres, can they really be that clueless??

by futbol Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:58 pm

Most likely marketing reasons. Cerci isn't playing anyway for Atleti. Might just as well get Torres to sell some shirts + nostalgia. Also you just know he will score his only goal of the season in Camp Nou. Laughing

by Tomwin Lannister Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:59 pm

Imagine being a Milan reject in 2014

Das it mané

by Red Alert Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:00 am

Casciavit wrote:
He's *bleep* awful. Honestly can't believe Atletico gave us Cerci for Torres, can they really be that clueless??

Isn't Cerci going on loan?

He can develop at Milan, whilst Torres will be used as cover. Atletico Madrid still love Torres so really, it's a win win for all.

by BarrileteCosmico Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:03 am

"Develop" a 27 year old player? Cerci is at his prime, he's not going to improve much.

by Shed Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:13 am

Casciavit wrote:Why does this guy keep getting chances at good teams?

He's *bleep* awful.

He's the AVB of football players. Crap everywhere he's been since 2011 yet still keeps walking into top club after top club. What a job.

by Red Alert Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:55 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:"Develop" a 27 year old player? Cerci is at his prime, he's not going to improve much.

Thought he was younger to tell you the truth.

Meh. Better him being at Milan though. A run of consistent games will get his confidence back up, and he's just going to stagnate sitting on the bench if he was to stay in Madrid right now. Maybe he could offer something in the future for them. But he hasn't really impressed in Spain as of right now.

by Forza Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:57 am

Red Alert wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:"Develop" a 27 year old player? Cerci is at his prime, he's not going to improve much.

Thought he was younger to tell you the truth.

Meh. Better him being at Milan though. A run of consistent games will get his confidence back up, and he's just going to stagnate sitting on the bench if he was to stay in Madrid right now. Maybe he could offer something in the future for them. But he hasn't really impressed in Spain as of right now.

Cerci was always touted as a future star, but he has only hit top form in the last couple of seasons. In particular, last season he formed one half of arguably the best striker partnership in Serie A along with Ciro Immobile at Torino.

by iftikhar Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:52 am

How serious is this Cerci-Torres deal/rumor???

Why would Atletico want such deal. May be Cerci hasn't done well or isn't slotting-in, but Torres has been abysmal for three years now.

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