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Post by Robespierre Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:08 pm

basically he is bottler in leagues , different in Europe
Swap with Mazzarri IMHO

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Post by guest7 Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:09 pm

The blame is mostly on Flo though, its ridiculous how he must always intervene and change his teams. it has little to do with chemistry, today we just lacked pure creativity.. we dont have that vision and final ball that di maria could provide.

simple way to explain it would be that had di maria would been playing today, chances would be flying everywhere. but because he wasnt it was different. nothing to do with chemistry. how di maria was sold is pure idiocy and flo needs to be fired and change team to barca because we honestly want nothing to do with him anymore. the guy is using madrid for PR more than anything IDIOTTT
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Post by Pedram Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:10 pm

Selling Di Maria, Alonso and Lopez and expecting the team to perform well. Laughing

Casillas rofl
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Post by guest7 Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:12 pm

Also creds to Pep AKA Machiavelli. Them war tactics Proud

Sold Kroos so Xabi wanted to leave for Bayern Proud OP tactics Proud
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:12 pm

LeSwagg James wrote:It's ok.. We still have 36 games to try and avoid relegation


this. first game and everyone gets hysteric Laughing

let in 4 goals --> 'we need Falcao ASAP' rofl
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Post by farfan Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:13 pm

Robespierre wrote:basically he is bottler in leagues , different in Europe
Swap with Mazzarri IMHO


this has nothing to do with ancelotti really .

real finally wins the long awaited decima playing a 4-3-3 formation with no number 10.
....then real decides to pay 80 million for a number 10 the next season Laughing

this is just like that time when madrid sold makelele and decided that they don't need a defensive midfielder , and that the duo of beckham-guti will do the job . Laughing

florentino :smh:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:17 pm

Win CL sack him after loses one game rofl

Madrid fans rofl

It's Perez fault anyway, he ripped out the heart of the CL winning team so he could have same fancy new toys.

Just like he did in his first stint as president, he hasn't learnt a thing.
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Post by Freeza Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:21 pm

The defense is just horrible.
Never seen anything like it in my life.
Ramos and Pepe together is useless. Ramos has no idea how to position himself, but creates a lot of tolerance because he scores goals. Even though he's a horrible defender.
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Post by RED Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:25 pm

No offence to the RM fans here, but thank God I'm not a RM fan. Always chopping and changing teams, galactico signings for the sake of it, revolving door of valuable players and managers, and having a president basically calling the shots on who starts and who comes in. And on top of that all of the politics involved.

I'd be frustrated as fck.
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Post by RED Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:26 pm

Pedram wrote:Selling Di Maria, Alonso and Lopez and expecting the team to perform well. Laughing

Casillas rofl


Exactly!
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Post by LeVersacci Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:30 pm

RED wrote:No offence to the RM fans here, but thank God I'm not a RM fan. Always chopping and changing teams, galactico signings for the sake of it, revolving door of valuable players and managers, and having a president basically calling the shots on who starts and who comes in. And on top of that all of the politics involved.

I'd be frustrated as fck.
Frustrating indeed. Can't wait till Perez is gone.

Still can't believe Carlo is benching Varane..
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Post by Collblanc Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:35 pm

cant wait for the classico
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:39 pm

Why is anyone surprised? Perez did things that Carlo did not want and he disassembled the CL winning team's structure. Now Carlo will have to find a new system that does not rely on Xabi and Di Maria. Until then surprises can and will happen. I think the team finally started to click last season at around November?
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Post by danyjr Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:39 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:It's Perez fault anyway, he ripped out the heart of the CL winning team so he could have same fancy new toys.

Not that the CL winning team oozed class, I think they had their share of good luck in some critical moments (as all teams do), but yeah I agree.

The fault goes to Pérez by imbalancing a team that actually needed some added power on the defensive side of things. But instead he did the exact opposite.
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Post by RealGunner Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:56 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Why is anyone surprised? Perez did things that Carlo did not want and he disassembled the CL winning team's structure. Now Carlo will have to find a new system that does not rely on Xabi and Di Maria. Until then surprises can and will happen. I think the team finally started to click last season at around November?


Yea agreed completely.

However just like last year, the league might be lost the time Madrid finally clicks.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:02 pm

It's just ONE game so far Laughing

we wouldn't to have to eat our opinions in 2 weeks would we
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Post by danyjr Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:04 pm

All the talk about Madrid clicking towards the end of the last season is overrated in my opinion. They weren't all that. But certainly much better than they are now.
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Post by Shed Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:16 pm

Se7en wrote:TBH. This guy is too quiet, lets Perez build his team for him. Grow some balls ffs


Incidentally, this is the same allegation that was leveled against him after he was sacked from Chelsea, particularly concerning his second season. He saw his assistant axed mid-season and completely out of the blue (Wilkins) and £50m carthorse Torres foisted onto him and said or did nothing about it. He's since said he was the one who wanted Torres (just as people in here say he's claiming the decisions taken this summer by Perez were all things he either approved of or collaborated in), but I've never believed a word of it. The guy's very weak.

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Post by FennecFox7 Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:23 pm

how is he weak when he wants to keep his job and work with what hes been given? You honestly think any coach could stand up to presidents like roman and perez? only mou could do that shit
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Post by guest7 Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:49 pm

Giggity5313 wrote:how is he weak when he wants to keep his job and work with what hes been given? You honestly think any coach could stand up to presidents like roman and perez? only mou could do that shit


Because he is a manager, he is being paid to help the team win. He isnt being paid to keep a job :facepalm:

For your information, there have been many coaches that have opposed a presidents decisions... It usually doesn't end up with the manager being sacked for it either. You usually need a reason to sack someone or else it would look bad for the president...

That's what is so *bleep* up about it. Ancelotti was at his safest ever after winning CL and he barely put up a fight for his players. Coward.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:19 am

danyjr wrote:All the talk about Madrid clicking towards the end of the last season is overrated in my opinion. They weren't all that. But certainly much better than they are now.
But they were definitely much better in the 2nd half of the season than in the first, where I at least did not personally find them impressive at all.
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Post by che Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:28 am

Perez buys a bunch of players, Madrid eventually win the cl, perez sells important but not flashy players to get more toys because he thinks he knows better, after all his squad just won the cl, Madrid shits the bed because they have zero balance in the squad, popular title-winning manager gets sacked. Time is a flat circle.
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Post by Casciavit Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:47 pm

Ancelotti has been a yes man his entire coaching career.
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Post by danyjr Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:31 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:But they were definitely much better in the 2nd half of the season than in the first, where I at least did not personally find them impressive at all.

Better than an abysmal first half of the season? Of course. But even in the second half they weren't all that impressive. They were poor in La Liga, won the Copa del Rey final by a small merit and Champions League final was decided on moments of individual brilliance rather than a collective effort. There was A LOT to fix but not only the president completely ignored that, he destroyed what was sort of working for Madrid.

And now he's expecting Chicharito to fix the problems Thumbs up
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Post by chad4401 Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:01 am

more farca fans talking about how bad madrid looked, like you guys looked any better rofl
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Post by farfan Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:27 am

danyjr wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:But they were definitely much better in the 2nd half of the season than in the first, where I at least did not personally find them impressive at all.

Better than an abysmal first half of the season? Of course. But even in the second half they weren't all that impressive. They were poor in La Liga, won the Copa del Rey final by a small merit and Champions League final was decided on moments of individual brilliance rather than a collective effort. There was A LOT to fix but not only the president completely ignored that, he destroyed what was sort of working for Madrid.

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lol at winning la copa by a small merit .
destroying atletico and barça doesn't count in your world i guess .

and madrid dominated the crap out of that final . the only reason real was in trouble was because of a casillas brainfart, not atletico's brillance .

not to mention the destruction of bayern in the semis of course .

danyjr wrote:he destroyed what was sort of working for Madrid


" sort of " rofl

barça fans are hilarious .
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