GAME OF THRONES - PART 5 - *NO BOOK TALK - READ THE RULES*

zigra wrote:No one was outraged bc of her getting burned

Freeza wrote:Also the idea to kill Shireen was GRRM's idea

RealGunner wrote:

Freeza wrote:Also the idea to kill Shireen was GRRM's idea

Not by Stannis

Freeza wrote:

RealGunner wrote:

Freeza wrote:Also the idea to kill Shireen was GRRM's idea

Not by Stannis

Technically he didn't

Also what is your source for that? Because the writers say "When George first told us about this" in relation to the scene

Freeza wrote:

zigra wrote:No one was outraged bc of her getting burned

You haven't been on the internet lately or what? There's been a huge outrage because of it.

Freeza wrote:

RealGunner wrote:

Freeza wrote:Also the idea to kill Shireen was GRRM's idea

Not by Stannis

Technically he didn't

Also what is your source for that? Because the writers say "When George first told us about this" in relation to the scene

Spoiler:

RealGunner wrote:

Freeza wrote:Also the idea to kill Shireen was GRRM's idea

Not by Stannis

RealGunner wrote:Tbf after giving it a thought, his actions does match his character from the show. Yea agreed about the hype thing. I didn't think they will treat his character like this (rightly or wrongly). They never actually worked on him as much as they work on Daenerys or someone else.

RealGunner wrote:Yea can't wait for the finale. Really hyped.

Seeing how KL barely featured, it should heavy Cersei. Also want to see Daenerys' skills as a pilot

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Stannis is still The Mannis. Everyone is all up in arms about how Stannis is a heartless bastard and that it was completely out of character and how they want to get off the Mannistrain. If this makes you get off the Mannistrain then you must not have went on it for reasons relating to The Mannis character, and only for "lol GET HYPE!".
I feel that Stannis' decision in this episode was completely in line with his character, and that he did the right decision. First let's take a look at what we have:
*Stannis' camp ravaged by the good men
*Not enough men and supplies to secure the battle against the Boltons
*Not enough supplies to return to Castle Black, and anyway retreating is not an option for Stannis
*Death is imminent for them all unless something special happens
*Blood magic has been shown multiple times to be real and working
*Kingsblood is the strongest blood, and is readily available in Shireen
We know Stannis puts his duty to the realm before everything else. He needs to defeat the Boltons and continue on to finally sit the Iron Throne. He is the one person in pursue of the throne that cares about the White Walker threat and actually wants to help the Night's Watch.
If he'd have continued on to Winterfell he'd surely lose the battle, which would result in Shireen dying. If he'd have turned back to Castle Black, chances are they would all starve and freeze to death, which also results in Shireen dying.
By sacrificing Shireen he gets an advantage in the upcoming battle,

Spoiler:

We also know that Stannis thinks about the bigger picture and the greater good, as this quote from ASOS that's been posted a bunch now shows:

Stannis wrote:I never asked for this crown. Gold is cold and heavy on the head, but so long as I am the king, I have a duty … If I must sacrifice one child to the flames to save a million from the dark … Sacrifice … is never easy, Davos. Or it is no true sacrifice.

(my note , this was also in the show , i think it was s3)

If sacrificing Shireen will help him to save the kingdom, when the option is to get slaughtered by Bolton-*bleep*-shits, it's nothing weird with Stannis doing this. He knows his duty is towards the kingdom, even if that conflicts with his own feelings. It's completely in line with his character I think. He does what is needed of him, what the kingdom needs of him, even if it's extremely hard and painful. And that is why he is still our Mannis.

Freeza wrote:Also I was imagining Oberyn's brother to be some GOAT fighter before the season. Imagine that Vagi when he's besically a middle eastern Bran Stark without superpowers.

urbaNRoots wrote:

Freeza wrote:Also I was imagining Oberyn's brother to be some GOAT fighter before the season. Imagine that Vagi when he's besically a middle eastern Bran Stark without superpowers.

How dare you



The most reasonable grown up in that planet.

LeVersacci wrote:I remember people saying we'll get new characters that we'll like now that Oberyn & Tywin is gone......

BarrileteCosmico wrote:I'd say this has been the first season where book readers have been more outraged than unsullied watchers. Book readers have overreacted to every single change in such a fashion that you would think the world ended every two weeks. Unsullied watchers have looked at things like Shireen burning or Sansa getting raped and gone "That's f***ed, but it fits the characters, Stannis is a zealot and Ramsay Bolton is a psycopath".

My advice would be that if your prime concern starts off as ""But in the book..." then you need to take a step back and assess the show as the show and the books as the books, because otherwise you're not going to enjoy either.

GoT fans are ridiculously spoiled. They get to watch 70+ hours of a visual adaptation mostly true to the source with a huge budget and support from HBO. If you're a fan of both I'd count your blessings that you can enjoy it rather than let some differences ruin it for you.