Re: CL SF : Real Madrid Vs Juventus

by Mamad Fri 24 Apr 2015, 19:12

It's strange how most of people say Bayern and Barca are better than us. i can't see a reasonable explanation for that.

by DeviAngel Fri 24 Apr 2015, 19:38

Mamad wrote:It's strange how most of people say Bayern and Barca are better than us. i can't see a reasonable explanation for that.

Because they are, you are not a team like one unit, you have no team play without modric. Look at Ronaldo - Bale this year and take a look at Neyma- Suarez- Neymar.

You look lost without Modric, maybe I am wrong but I rate Bayern and Barca above RM just for those facts

by halamadrid2 Fri 24 Apr 2015, 19:51

Mixed feelings about this one. Of course Juve with the away leg first was the best case scenario but we will be missing Modric and we need the strongest midfield we have. We could've easily sat back and counter attacked against the other two but in this game we need to control the game because a game in slow motion is better for some of their players especially Pirlo

Advantages for us:

Pogba is injured and has been going in and out of form anyways. Didn't like him when Juve played Napoli
Vidal is in a very bad form
Pirlo is further than done
Evra is their LB
Dont create many chances

Disadvantages for us:
They defend very well
Marchisio has become alot better
Tevez finally scores in Europe
They play a 4 man back line
They are happy to concede posession
They are an aerial threat from crosses

Advantages for Juve:

Iker is unpredictable
Ramos is unpredictable
If Bale gets back in time he will start
Modric is injured which means Ramos will likely play there and you never know with him. He could get sent off any minute in a game
We need 10 chances to score one goal
Marcelo although has been great can be forgetful in defence

Disadvantages for Juve:

If Pepe and Varane are paired we will be very hard to break down especially on that Carvajal side
Kroos is more agile, faster and can evade pressure better than Xabi so they can't mark him like they and so many other teams did vs us last season
If Bale doesn't play we might control the game and leave very little chances
James is in great form which could spell trouble for Evra
Ronaldo
Ancelotti's experience in Europe

by LeSwagg James Fri 24 Apr 2015, 19:52

People under-estimating us Proud

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri 24 Apr 2015, 19:56

Mamad wrote:It's strange how most of people say Bayern and Barca are better than us. i can't see a reasonable explanation for that.

Well Barca there is considering they are above you in the table and beat you very recently. There is no argument for Bayern atm considering you haven't played them since last year.

Besides you have key injuries so it's natural to expect less.

by Mr Nick09 Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:01

we just won the cl and we are in semis again for the 5th consecutive time. we shouldnt be expected to win.

besides we play that pos juve team that park worse than patetico. will be a miracle if we win with bale back and all

by S Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:03

Just for clarification sake :

Di Marzio wrote:When Juventus and Real Madrid face each other it's always a signature match because of the clubs' histories, but the upcoming semifinal will be extra special for Alvaro Morata. The Spanish striker left Real Madrid to join Juventus last summer, but the Galacticos have buy back options in 2016 and 2017. There isn't a clause in Morata's current contract with the bianconeri that forbids him from playing against his former club, despite the fact the merengeues wanted to insert one. Allegri will be able to count on Morata in the Champions League semifinals.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:04

I actually think Bale will be good against Juve Laughing

I wouldn't say this against Bayern or Barca, but Juve's lack of width and just pace should help Bale IMO.

by Mr Nick09 Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:05

Bale vs Evra, EPL is with us at all times

by Blue Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:05

izzy wrote:
Blue wrote:You guys are no Bayern though.

Hope juve wins but i feel Real will advance, rooting for the underdog.

Yeah..................... it's not like we went to Munich and clapped them 0-4.

Must be my imagination.

But we're no Bayern......................... we're just the team that punked them.

Yes because last season Bayern equals the treble wining Bayern team?

by Mr Nick09 Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:08

Last Season people were fapping just as much about Bayern lol, it's not like they are significantly better.

and Izzy is right, we humiliated the shit outta them, in their own arena, we made their fans quit and go home early.

we punked them. I can hear the argument about Barca being better at the moment on recent form but Bayern better than us? you all must be on some strong shit. They havent done anything this year to prove they are a level above, nothing whatsoever.

by Cruijf Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:14

Why are we basing current comparisions on results from a year ago?

Neither Madrid nor Bayern are the same team, Bayern has undoubtedly improved and Madrid has arguably regressed.

Not saying Bayern is better, but the result last year doesn't mean a whole lot. It's like saying Basel is better than Chelsea because they did the double on them a year ago.

by DeviAngel Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:15

@Hala Vidal has hit form in the last month he is defensive monster. In the last game Morata,Vidal,Tevez they were all throwing up there are videos too.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:15

Cruijf wrote:Why are we basing current comparisions on results from a year ago?

Neither Madrid nor Bayern are the same team, Bayern have undoubtedly improved and Madrid have arguably regressed.

Not saying Bayern is better, but the result last year doesn't mean a whole lot. It's like saying Basel are better than Chelsea because they did the double on them a year ago.

Bayern have been my pick all season because i believe they are the most balanced team with the least amount of weaknesses.

But there is absolute zero to suggest the part in bold is true, none at all.

by Mr Nick09 Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:15

So what's the basis of your argument to say that they have improved and we have regressed? please enlighten us all

by halamadrid2 Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:22

DeviAngel wrote:@Hala Vidal has hit form in the last month he is defensive monster. In the last game Morata,Vidal,Tevez they were all throwing up there are videos too.

A Vidal inform is very troubling especially since he seems to never tire. We could take advantage of his average passing ability though

Is Pereyra playing winger??? If he is his inexperience might be a plus to us because I am pretty sure the big occasion will be very overwhelming for him

Is Pogba definitely out against us???? That means only Vidal can physically challenge us in midfield both Pirlo and Marchisio are alot weaker

Vidal vs Ramos Laughing

by Robespierre Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:23

Benzema will be availabe at least ? Not so confident about Chicharito

by halamadrid2 Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:24

Yes Benzema is expected to be back in two weeks which means if he can get some minutes under his belt against Sevilla he will definitely start against Juve

by Robespierre Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:26

Good , we need of him , I want to believe in Chad for a day.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:26

by DeviAngel Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:27

halamadrid2 wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:@Hala Vidal has hit form in the last month he is defensive monster. In the last game Morata,Vidal,Tevez they were all throwing up there are videos too.

A Vidal inform is very troubling especially since he seems to never tire. We could take advantage of his average passing ability though

Is Pereyra playing winger??? If he is his inexperience might be a plus to us because I am pretty sure the big occasion will be very overwhelming for him

Is Pogba definitely out against us???? That means only Vidal can physically challenge us in midfield both Pirlo and Marchisio are alot weaker

Vidal vs Ramos

Pereyra is playing AM at the moment and in our counter attacking strategy is very very dangerous player as he is not afraid to run at players and dribble in tight spaces and he is pretty damn good at it.

Pogba will most likely be out for the first tie.

Marchisio this season is world class DM.

Vidal and Ramos Laughing

by M99 Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:28

Robespierre wrote:Good , we need of him , I want to believe in Chad for a day.

by halamadrid2 Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:36

DeviAngel wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:@Hala Vidal has hit form in the last month he is defensive monster. In the last game Morata,Vidal,Tevez they were all throwing up there are videos too.

A Vidal inform is very troubling especially since he seems to never tire. We could take advantage of his average passing ability though

Is Pereyra playing winger??? If he is his inexperience might be a plus to us because I am pretty sure the big occasion will be very overwhelming for him

Is Pogba definitely out against us???? That means only Vidal can physically challenge us in midfield both Pirlo and Marchisio are alot weaker

Vidal vs Ramos

Pereyra is playing AM at the moment and in our counter attacking strategy is very very dangerous player as he is not afraid to run at players and dribble in tight spaces and he is pretty damn good at it.

Pogba will most likely be out for the first tie.

Marchisio this season is world class DM.

Vidal and Ramos

So your width is created by your fullbacks then??? I thought you were playing a 433 with Morata and Pereyra on either side of Tevez.

Could be dangerous for your fullbacks to push up but who am I kidding you are hard to score against for a reason

by Blue Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:39

Mr Nick09 wrote:Last Season people were fapping just as much about Bayern lol, it's not like they are significantly better.

and Izzy is right, we humiliated the shit outta them, in their own arena, we made their fans quit and go home early.

we punked them. I can hear the argument about Barca being better at the moment on recent form but Bayern better than us? you all must be on some strong shit. They havent done anything this year to prove they are a level above, nothing whatsoever.

Dat delusion.

Believer whatever you want or keep smoking that shit you are on.

by DeviAngel Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:47

halamadrid2 wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:@Hala Vidal has hit form in the last month he is defensive monster. In the last game Morata,Vidal,Tevez they were all throwing up there are videos too.

A Vidal inform is very troubling especially since he seems to never tire. We could take advantage of his average passing ability though

Is Pereyra playing winger??? If he is his inexperience might be a plus to us because I am pretty sure the big occasion will be very overwhelming for him

Is Pogba definitely out against us???? That means only Vidal can physically challenge us in midfield both Pirlo and Marchisio are alot weaker

Vidal vs Ramos

Pereyra is playing AM at the moment and in our counter attacking strategy is very very dangerous player as he is not afraid to run at players and dribble in tight spaces and he is pretty damn good at it.

Pogba will most likely be out for the first tie.

Marchisio this season is world class DM.

Vidal and Ramos

So your width is created by your fullbacks then??? I thought you were playing a 433 with Morata and Pereyra on either side of Tevez.

Could be dangerous for your fullbacks to push up but who am I kidding you are hard to score against for a reason

It really depends often Pereyra and Morata go wide providing support for Tevez. It really depends from our opposition. This is the thing that Allegri brought we are unpredictable.

in counter attacks Pereyra plays more central and he drifts and roams from one position to another.

by izzy Fri 24 Apr 2015, 20:50

Blue wrote:Yes because last season Bayern equals the treble wining Bayern team?

Excuse me, last year, Bayern were the team that most were picking to retain and destroy us in the semi's on their way............ and look what happened........

Bayern won the double last year........... which team was the reason they didn't reach that CL final last year?

This happened. These are facts. Laughing

Of course we're not Bayern. We're Real Madrid. The team who clapped Bayerns ass.

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