CL Final: Undecima, here we come!

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Post by titosantill on Sun May 29, 2016 1:35 am

i think we actually had that conversation either before or after the atletico match we lost @ home if i'm not mistaken...let's not get ahead of ourselves though, this doesn't mean we should expect every castilla to play like him. what i like most about the kid is his attitude, when he stepped up for the first pk i think i was even more frightened than him. i kept telling my girl (who wasn't interested) and our kids "how can u put a novice to take your first pk"? trust me, other youngsters or even professionals would have frozen. you guys got me on that one, touche. james and isco smh, they probably got more talent than the guy but he's got attitude......i hope he keeps it up, so that someone doesn't come next season and say "you were hyping lucas". giving props doesn't equate to "hyping"


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Post by FalcaoPunch on Sun May 29, 2016 1:41 am

Yup we all did and as much as I love James, I love the club more.

No player will change that and Lucas this entire season has been killing it and well deserved praise for him all around :bow:

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Post by Nivash on Sun May 29, 2016 2:00 am

@titosantill wrote:i think we actually had that conversation either before or after the atletico match we lost @ home if i'm not mistaken...let's not get ahead of ourselves though, this doesn't mean we should expect every castilla to play like him. what i like most about the kid is his attitude, when he stepped up for the first pk i think i was even more frightened than him. i kept telling my girl (who wasn't interested) and our kids "how can u put a novice to take your first pk"? trust me, other youngsters or even professionals would have frozen. you guys got me on that one, touche. james and isco smh, they probably got more talent than the guy but he's got attitude......i hope he keeps it up, so that someone doesn't come next season and say "you were hyping lucas". giving props doesn't equate to "hyping"


While you can't expect all castilla to play like this, castilla are more likely to give players that want to fight for the team. Sometimes that fight can make up for lack of talent. Either way, it's the sort of thing that should give them first dibs at rotation spots (for the very least) when they're at or approaching a point where they could reasonably expect to be picked for a la liga team. I'm by no means advocating throwing in castilla just for the sake of it, but when they're ready or hinting at being ready, they deserve a chance to make a case.

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Post by halamadrid2 on Sun May 29, 2016 7:38 am

I agree Lucas, Carvajal, Nacho and even Kiko have all been excellent this season when called upon. Nacho is unlucly not to play more. I want more of those in my team and less of the James' no offence Falcaopunch. He is an excellent player but we need players who bleed for the shirt. Most of our record signings dont give a shite

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Post by Valkyrja on Sun May 29, 2016 8:09 am

When I saw Lucas taking the first penalty I knew that we were going to win Proud

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Post by Valkyrja on Sun May 29, 2016 8:45 am

Luis *bleep* FIGO


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Post by Valkyrja on Sun May 29, 2016 8:55 am



:bow:

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Sun May 29, 2016 3:11 pm

Two-time European champion at 24. I would expect nothing less from the best RB in the world.

BTW the jury is still out on the real reason he cried last night as he was leaving the pitch due to injury: was it because he wanted to bleed even more for his beloved club and was crushed that he couldn't, or was it because he saw Danilo warming up and felt bad for us rofl

But seriously though, that picture and that smile? I'm really happy for him. Enjoy Dani, you've earned it :bow:

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Post by futbol_bill on Sun May 29, 2016 3:34 pm

I have seen a lot of criticism of individual players over this past season and I would like to point out that most of the heavily criticised were excellent yesterday, Ramos, Marcelo, Kroos, Casemiro and Bale. I also thought Modric was great yesterday esp. In first half plus Lucas in 2nd half.

There is criticism today being thrown at Ronaldo and Benz, but they both were injured, in case you forgot, which can explain some of the flaws you were observing. It does seem as if a player playing with injury doesn't even enter your mind when this criticism flows!!

The only players that didn't perform well yesterday were Danilo and Isco and Pepe's embellishments were embarrassing.

But why criticise at all, can't you just enjoy?

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Post by halamadrid2 on Sun May 29, 2016 8:58 pm

Fans singing Lucas Vasquez' name. Kid is very popular amongst the fans. He was too shy to talk though bless him


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Post by halamadrid2 on Sun May 29, 2016 10:34 pm

Epic trophy celebration at the Bernabeu atm

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Post by Freeza on Sun May 29, 2016 10:41 pm

Keylor: "I'd like to thank god, the fax machine and my teammates".

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Post by halamadrid2 on Sun May 29, 2016 10:52 pm

rofl

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Post by halamadrid2 on Sun May 29, 2016 10:57 pm

Kiko: Navas the best keeper in the world

You tell'em son

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Post by Turok_TTZ on Mon May 30, 2016 12:31 am

@futbol_bill wrote:I have seen a lot of criticism of individual players over this past season and I would like to point out that most of the heavily criticised were excellent yesterday, Ramos, Marcelo, Kroos, Casemiro and Bale. I also thought Modric was great yesterday esp. In first half plus Lucas in 2nd half.

There is criticism today being thrown at Ronaldo and Benz, but they both were injured, in case you forgot, which can explain some of the flaws you were observing. It does seem as if a player playing with injury doesn't even enter your mind when this criticism flows!!

The only players that didn't perform well yesterday were Danilo and Isco and Pepe's embellishments were embarrassing.

But why criticise at all, can't you just enjoy?
I think this is a symptom of modern times. too many people complain and nitpick over the silliest things. the standards or rather the perception of standards has changed. With the advent of communication and bloody twitter, intelligible discourse has decreased.

of course, there is a time and place for criticism and some do deserve to be criticized but in recent times such has been blown way out of proportion.

I think the consistency of certain players and the nostalgia of players of old may have bent or twisted our perceived standards or preconceived notions of who or what are world class. elite, gifted, good, etc.

Having said that, these are the facts as I understand them:

We're the european champions once again.
We've proven with the UCL triumph to be the top dog of Europe. To be UCL champions is to be the best. And we are it.

Everyone, even danilo who I thought had a better game in the final than the games before did their very best. and with these champions of ours we claimed the 2nd CL title in 3 years.

CR7 is el comandante, Ramos proves once again that he is the best cb around. Can't complain when the boys bring home the silver. I reckon it's time the criticisms stop. All things considered, we had an incredible season considering how it was started. Won the CL, Lost the league only by 1 point, CDR was management incompetence related. Honestly can't complain how things turned out. could have been much worse.

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Post by halamadrid2 on Mon May 30, 2016 8:20 am

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Re: CL Final: Undecima, here we come!

Post by shadexticos on Mon May 30, 2016 3:51 pm

I think the criticism of pepe is unfair.
He had a stellar game.
He was unlucky that Torres out-smarted him by throwing his leg in front of him.

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Post by halamadrid2 on Mon May 30, 2016 4:13 pm

Criticism of Pepe? What are people insane?

Did anyone notice Griezmann or Torres because I didnt. Griezmann was so isolated in between Pepe and Ramos he started playing on the wing sending in crosses from the bloody half way line

The only criticism Pepe should get is play acting which was rather annoying not to mention it was right infront of the referee who should have yellow carded him for the blasphemy. Clattenberg must have thought :facepalm: is this what happens in LaLiga every week

Our whole team were excellent. Danilo tried but struggled against Carrasco's trickery and was poorly positioned for the goal and also Isco was off pace until extra time when he finally started playing good. Benz and Ronaldo were abit underwhelming too but we lost that target player when Benz went out even if he lost the ball alot so it works both ways. ZZ needs to manage his minutes next season because him constantly playing half fit in our most important games is abit irritating but hopefully with Morata ZZ will rotate alot more

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Post by halamadrid2 on Mon May 30, 2016 4:38 pm

I have just finished watching the first half. I dont think any of us is giving ZZ enough credit for how we approached them from the get go. We were stretching them so much they didnt know who to mark. Very different from the usual sack of shite we witness against them. All of BBC were constantly interchanging which made man marking incredibly difficult for the Atleti players. I think they were overwhelmed by how different we played them. We went route 1 alot by playing long balls and winning the second ball. The defending was abit lazy in the last 15 mins but man they didnt have an answer to what we were doing

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Post by futbol_bill on Mon May 30, 2016 5:00 pm

The only criticism of Pepe was his play acting or embellishment. That was actually embarrassing, at least laughable. Did you see the look on ref's face the second time? But that's not to say there wasn't embellishment with Atleti as well. Pepe just went too far twice!

And I agree completely about Zidane and tactics. And yet in general forum there are those (and Nick) saying Zidane doesn't have any tactics!!!

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Post by sportsczy on Mon May 30, 2016 6:24 pm

It's infuriating Bill. Zidane apparently fluked his way to the CL trophy and the 12 straight La Liga wins to end the season Laughing

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Post by futbol_bill on Mon May 30, 2016 7:01 pm

Sports, don't take it too hard, they are just making those statements to troll you! And Nick, he just makes these kind of statements (from time to time) to initiate contraversy and to goat you into predicable reaction. With Nick, we agree 90% of the time so I think he takes these tactics to promote conversation, otherwise he gets bored! :coffee:

Seems to me you have given me this same sort of advice a few times in the past.

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Post by sportsczy on Mon May 30, 2016 7:06 pm

yeah i know...  i'm too emotionally involved here Laughing

Going to be an interesting summer mercato.  Since we won the CL...  I fear we will do very little. If this happens, there's very little we can do tactically to change because BBC is very limiting. And then people will say Zidane is boring and unimaginative of course Laughing

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Post by Adit on Mon May 30, 2016 7:17 pm

Agree. BBC will limit every manager in the world. This final again showed they are unproductive and only great thing about the trio as a whole is all of them are aerial threat.. I'm not talking about them individually. They are all world class footballers but collectively they are a tactical disaster imo.

If Zidane with full control on transfers can't destroy bbc once and for all then nobody can.

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Re: CL Final: Undecima, here we come!

Post by sportsczy on Mon May 30, 2016 7:37 pm

The one thing that will make an impact is if the midfield is stronger... so it can impose its will on people offensively and defensively. Right now, Kroos is limited defensively and Casemiro is limited offensively. I don't think we should give up on Casemiro because he can develop as he is young. But I think we can upgrade on Kroos.

Other part is Marcelo... i really don't like what he brings. The problem there is that the LB market is so thin. But we need to bring in some real competition for him.

I'd also change one of Ronaldo or Benz but that's just me I guess. Changing both isn't feasible imo.... but one should be.

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