GAME OF THRONES - PART 7 - *NO BOOK TALK - READ THE RULES*

Guard: Open the gates!
Blackfish: Are you high? This is clearly a trap.
Guard: (cross-eyed) But he's my lord, my lord!
Blackfish: The *bleep* are you talking about? You literally said nothing a few days ago when I told the Freys to slit his useless throat..
Guard: You are not the Lord of this castle, my Lord.
Blackfish: Wait.. why do you keep saying that? Am I your Lord or not? You know what? *bleep* it. Open the gates. I said I'd defend this castle no matter what.. but they're just going to kill me off screen anyway.

ES wrote:I'm surprised book readers aren't even extra mad since it debunked a lot of theories

urbaNRoots wrote:
Meereen getting attacked is interesting, but Varys again does not get to meet Daenerys lol. Where is he going, he mentioned needing allies-- is he going to Dorne? With the Iron Born near Slaver's Bay, I expect them to arrive any time now. I hope they don't blueball us again, I want to see a Naval battle now.

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BarrileteCosmico wrote:I think the point is that the soldiers don't want to die because the blackfish is a stubborn man. They saw an out to get out of this alive, and they took it.

Tomwin Lannister wrote:You might be right but it might be the case that Edmure actually verbally issued a command to let him in as opposed to being held at knife point and saying nothing.

Glory wrote:

BarrileteCosmico wrote:I think the point is that the soldiers don't want to die because the blackfish is a stubborn man. They saw an out to get out of this alive, and they took it.

Tomwin Lannister wrote:You might be right but it might be the case that Edmure actually verbally issued a command to let him in as opposed to being held at knife point and saying nothing.

When the very lord they have sworn to protect is about to be hanged, how can they wait for insignificant formalities such as that. I can kind of agree their inaction and skepticism for a while as asking them to stop hanging will mean surrendering the castle. That is okay.
But then blackfish went on and even said he dont care about the supposed Tully lord and they can do whatever they want. No soldier will accept something like that meekly.

Its double standards and inconsistent writing. If they were scared of the Blackdfish on the first instant, why they were not the second time. A way out? Hmm may be. But still i dont think it can save the mess, at least not for me.

LeVersacci wrote:No way is the Stark team winning without losses. I could see a flayed Rickon hanging on a flayed cross thing in the battlefield. But if he dies then what has been the point of his character?

TwiceBorn wrote:

   If you think that FM are simply an assassins guild then you probably expected things to go Lian Hearn style - vengeful ninjas hunting Arya 4life. If you think that FM are more like Keepers from the "Thief" games or D&D Druids (so called lawful neutral) - observers and careful manipulators, it makes much more sense.

   The Waif was an awful example of FM because she enjoyed frightening, pursuing, torturing and killing her victims. We shouldn't treat her as a model FM. She understood nothing from the religious teachings. FM deliver "the gift" to save one from the unnecessary suffering and only if it is balanced by equally significant sacrifice. FM also demand that the one delivering "the gift" is to be indifferent and preferably doesn't even know a person he is supposed to kill.

   The Waif repeatedly demanded the right to murder a girl she was jealous of. And her wish was granted: she was allowed to try. She failed because of her shortcomings and paid the ultimate price... for "Only death can pay for life". The outcome was decided from the start, at least this is what true FM believer would assume. Unlike the Waif, Arya have learned from her lessons by suffering as her victims had suffered. She have learned the value of life, the compassion, the mercy. By defeating Waif, a mirror image of her old spiteful self, Aria finally discards her old self. She has become No-One, thus she can become whomever she wants to be.

   Let me sum this up with two quotes from one of the greatest games of old:

   The essence of balance is detachment. To embrace a cause, to grow fond or spiteful, is to lose one's balance, after which, no action can be trusted. Our burden is not for the dependent of spirit.

   and

   The most promising acolyte left us, not out of the lesser folly of sentiment, but the greater folly of anger. His heart was clouded, and his balance was lost, but his abilities were unmatched. Even then, we knew to watch him most carefully.

urbaNRoots wrote:If Rickon dies I won't feel anything because we never got to really know him. We didn't see his reaction to Shaggydog's death, Osha's death, when he found out that his mom and Robb are dead, what he thinks of the Umbers etc... nothing at all.

For that I hope he stays alive and there is a power struggle for Winterfell with Littlefinger/Sansa and Rickon/Sansa dividing the Northern houses.

Maybe that's exactly why Rickon has to die, he is in Sansa's way right now.

RealGunner wrote:
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Anyone think Arya will meet Daenerys on her way back to Westeros? Can see it happen if they are both on ships on their way back.

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