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Post by futbol Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:57 am

50 % still voted for a child molester on a horse who thinks 9/11 was a biblical punishment, women shouldn't vote and slavery was great. This country. rofl

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Post by CBarca Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:46 pm

They also voted in Trump who has sexual allegations, called Mexicans rapists, bragged about assaulting women etc by 33% vote margin (I think).

I do think it's disgusting it was that close, but I'm both surprised and happy that Alabama managed to not elect a Republican over a Dem.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:03 am

futbol wrote:50 % still voted for a child molester on a horse who thinks 9/11 was a biblical punishment, women shouldn't vote and slavery was great. This country. rofl
Considering Trump won by something like a 30 point margin just 1 year ago I'd say it's pretty impressive so many changed their mind so quickly, tbf
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Post by McLewis Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:10 pm

Black women saved the country from Moore honestly. 97% voted for Jones with black men voting 93%. That is an amazing turnout for a special election.

White turnout was low, as expected, and the whites who did turnout, especially women, voted heavily for Moore. No surprise there.

That white women voted in such numbers (52% college-educated, 73% no college) for this guy, despite those allegations, is truly horrible.
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Post by Guest Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:52 pm

McLewis wrote:Black women saved the country from Moore honestly. 97% voted for Jones with black men voting 93%. That is an amazing turnout for a special election.

White turnout was low, as expected, and the whites who did turnout, especially women, voted heavily for Moore. No surprise there.

That white women voted in such numbers (52% college-educated, 73% no college) for this guy, despite those allegations, is truly horrible.


Its disappointing black women went to bat for this guy despite the fact that he pandered to neo-conservatives this election with ads like this:


Could you imagine Jewish women coming out in record numbers for a guy who could honor a nazi general during a commercial. Both sides BS.

That general was a traitor and a murderer, who put his life on the line to defend the right of Alabamans to own black people. He should be in the dustbin of history, not as an example of honor for a democratic candidate in the 21st century.

I would have voted for him if I had to, but that speaks more about Moore than it does him. We can mention him sending KKK guys to jail, and it is admirable, but that commercial and rhetoric is unacceptable.

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Post by McLewis Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:34 pm

For sure, Doug Jones, as a Southerner, has to be taken with a grain of salt as there's always this need to pander to conservatives and neo-conservatives if you're a white democrat running against the GOP down there. Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and Al Gore know all about that.

That said, he's the lesser of 2 evils. This was a no brainer honestly.

Even then - I doubt he remains in the Senate for longer than the next couple of years. Their GOP is still very much the institution there so as long as the next candidate they run isn't a child molester or serial sexual harasser, they'll beat Jones handily and turn that seat red again. It'll be as if this election never happened I imagine.
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Post by CBarca Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:27 am

It's the power of religion. I'll see if I can find the stat tomorrow, but I think White women who weren't evangelical actually didn't go for Moore in high numbers. It was that white, evalengelical women decided to turn out and vote in high numbers for Moore.

As crazy as it sounds, people can rationalize paedophilia vs baby killing and paedophilia is not quite as bad in their heads. Besides, he's a god fearing, repenting, religious man.
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Post by rincon Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:50 am

The guy is representing Alabama, of course he has to say and/or believe that crap. An ugly side of the US. Flyover state.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:44 am

The guy has a long career of standing up for civil rights of the black community as an attorney, it's why they came out in droves for him. He sent KKK members to jail decades after they did the crime.

But hey, he ran that ad, so that negates that, right?
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Post by Guest Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:21 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:The guy has a long career of standing up for civil rights of the black community as an attorney, it's why they came out in droves for him. He sent KKK members to jail decades after they did the crime.

But hey, he ran that ad, so that negates that, right?


It shows a fundamental lack of respect for black people no matter his actions.

Would he have did that to show the contrast between a Nazi and American general during ww2? Would jewish people accept that?

For black people to be such a large segment of the Alabama population, people sure expect them to put up with stuff. That ad is flat out disrespectful.

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Post by Freeza Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:32 pm

rofl

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2017/12/16/here-are-7-words-that-the-trump-administration-is-reportedly-banning-at-cdc/amp/

This is turning into a real 1984
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Post by Myesyats Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:04 pm

Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson Is 'Seriously Considering' Running for President

"If [Johnson] were to put himself in that position, he would get my support wholeheartedly," Kevin Hart said about 'Jumanji' co-star and former wrestler.



Worry not my children, a bright future lies ahead.
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Post by RealGunner Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:20 pm

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Post by Pedram Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:45 pm

lmao can you imagine the promos he could cut against Trump in the debates rofl
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Post by M99 Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:21 am

Can't wait for a IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT YOU THINK on the presidential debate.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:52 pm

Myesyats wrote:Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson Is 'Seriously Considering' Running for President

"If [Johnson] were to put himself in that position, he would get my support wholeheartedly," Kevin Hart said about 'Jumanji' co-star and former wrestler.



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I'm reminded of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, where the president is always an actor with no real power but whose job it is to always be the center of attention.

Seems kinda prescient now.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:34 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Myesyats wrote:Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson Is 'Seriously Considering' Running for President

"If [Johnson] were to put himself in that position, he would get my support wholeheartedly," Kevin Hart said about 'Jumanji' co-star and former wrestler.



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I'm reminded of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, where the president is always an actor with no real power but whose job it is to always be the center of attention.

Seems kinda prescient now.


Well, it was the time Ronald Reagan was running for office, no?
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:36 pm

That's a good point, although he went for governor first IIRC, not straight for media to president.
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Post by Myesyats Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:45 pm

Yeah, it seems so bizzare to me that this is actually very likely to happen. In my country it's basically unimaginable that a nonpolitican becomes president. Trump was a surprise already, but The Rock... I can already visualize the banter. The meme industry is gonna appreciate that, surely. Elon Musk should also run, lmao.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:14 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:That's a good point, although he went for governor first IIRC, not straight for media to president.


Yeah he was governor of California, like Arnie, I think he quit his Hollywood acting career for politics in the 50s/early 60s maybe
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Post by Unique Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:36 pm

i can see the headlines now if the rock says something people don't like.

CAN YOU SMELL WHAT THE ROCK AND KIM JONG UN ARE COOKING.
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Post by Guest Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:02 pm

Tax cut passed the Senate last night. Going to the house now where it will surely pass.

People laugh, but he gets everything he wants.

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Post by Myesyats Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:11 pm

What's wrong about the tax cut?
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Post by Freeza Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:19 pm

Myesyats wrote:What's wrong about the tax cut?


It further increases the difference between the top 1% and the rest and createst more inequality.

Inequality hurts a country's overall economy because the top 1% isn't the people who spend money. They're the people who save money to get richer.

The middleclass are the ones who buy stuff and keeps the economy going and by creating more inequality you're hurting the whole country.
The whole concept of tax breaks are to give people more money to spend, but they're only giving the rich these breaks.
Their excuse is tricle down economics, which is all but a myth.
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Post by Myesyats Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:35 pm

Yes, it makes sense. However, it can be argued that rich people worked to get their money as hard as anyone else is, so why should they be taxed more?
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Post by rincon Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:45 pm

The answer to that question is just a matter of how you view your ideal society. Some people will argue for what you said and that's valid. Others will argue for equality and that's valid too.

I myself am for a bit more equality, so I'm pro higher taxes and tax brackets. In South America we have crazy income inequality and the poverty that comes with it creates problems for everyone, rich or poor. It breeds crime and antagonistic relations in society between classes. In the US it's the same to a lesser degree.

In belgium where I live now it's very hard to get rich as taxes are the highest in Europe and social systems are extensive. I take that though because it means that everyone lives reasonably well. It means that hospitals are free, that schools are free (for when I eventually have kids), that I can walk almost everyone everywhere and feel safe and most neighbourhoods are reasonably nice. Things like that.

Young people in this system have a real fighting chance to be whatever they want if they study/work hard enough as the social platform gives you certainties. If you are born poor in the US you are almost surely screwed.
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