Re: Premier League 17-18 Discussion Part 9 - The End

by Unique Wed May 09, 2018 5:29 pm

CBarca wrote:Spurs didn't really improve on last season in the end though. I mean, the CL campaign was pretty good and the loss against Juventus was tough, but beyond that...

And sure, Spurs were without Toby for almost all the season, Kane out for chunks, Danny Rose went back to being shit. Winks gone for most of the season. A regression was due when you take those things into account.

But there will have to be some changes in the summer. Absolutely no doubt in my mind that Poch is the right manager to continue on with, but the team needs improvements. Moura is a valuable addition, I can't wait to see more of him. I think Spurs need to target a CM though, and look at a new LB if possible. And RE-SIGN TOBY. I don't think the last will happen.

Second place is still possible, I can see it happening, United in a bit of a lull atm.

tbh ive not seen much of anything of moura at spurs. how has he been performing.

by Nishankly Wed May 09, 2018 9:15 pm

Which Premier League players are best at evading pressure in possession in the final third? @deepxg tells us #SBDataLaunch pic.twitter.com/eVk7TVZQnW
— StatsBomb (@StatsBomb) May 9, 2018

Very interesting stat here.
You can see Full backs and Wide players with the highest percentage of evading pressure/marking.

Emre Can the only midfielder that high in this list. It confirms what the Liverpool fans say about him about how he's horrible under pressure and barely tries to create. Note deepest Liverpool CM is always Henderson.

@rinc

by CBarca Wed May 09, 2018 10:05 pm

@Unique, he's been off the bench mostly because he's just come into the team and Poch is a strict manager, players have to earn their minutes, earn their trust, and be able to last the full 90. He'll see a lot more time next season. He's looked good when he's played though.

Question for Liverpool fans:

If the unthinkable happens and Pool manage to miss out on the CL AND lose the final this year, was this season a success?

by ExtremistEnigma Thu May 10, 2018 12:20 am

Is fapping without jizzing considered a success? hmm

by Nishankly Thu May 10, 2018 3:49 am

Season turns from 10/10 to 4/10.

by Art Morte Thu May 10, 2018 4:31 am

We haven't lost at home in the Prem and I can't see us losing to Brighton, so I consider a top-4 finish guaranteed now.

by Unique Thu May 10, 2018 8:04 am

If we miss out on champions league football next season I think it would have been a bad season for us. But 2 things we have learned from this season is 1. Liverpool have a good team. 2. Liverpool have a terrible squad.

by rincon Thu May 10, 2018 8:16 am

Nishankly wrote:
Which Premier League players are best at evading pressure in possession in the final third? @deepxg tells us #SBDataLaunch pic.twitter.com/eVk7TVZQnW
— StatsBomb (@StatsBomb) May 9, 2018

Very interesting stat here.
You can see Full backs and Wide players with the highest percentage of evading pressure/marking.

Emre Can the only midfielder that high in this list. It confirms what the Liverpool fans say about him about how he's horrible under pressure and barely tries to create. Note deepest Liverpool CM is always Henderson.

@rinc

Banter aside. Unless I'm reading those axes wrong it says nothing about how good a player is under pressure. It just says what fraction of their forward passes are under pressure. If anything all this does is point to Klopp's direct style as 4 of the top 5 players making more forward passes under pressure are Liverpool players.

by Firenze Thu May 10, 2018 8:23 am

Unique wrote:If we miss out on champions league football next season I think it would have been a bad season for us. But 2 things we have learned from this season is 1. Liverpool have a good team. 2. Liverpool have a terrible squad.

I disagree. We've learned that you have a Salah this season and next season it's highly possible you won't. :coffee:

by Unique Thu May 10, 2018 9:44 am

Firenze wrote:
Unique wrote:If we miss out on champions league football next season I think it would have been a bad season for us. But 2 things we have learned from this season is 1. Liverpool have a good team. 2. Liverpool have a terrible squad.

I disagree. We've learned that you have a Salah this season and next season it's highly possible you won't.

we had a top 4 spot wrapped up by this time last year without salah. so you could argue we were doing better without him. Very Happy

by BarcaLearning Thu May 10, 2018 12:27 pm

Well sending off for Wenger with his team losing every game before he leaves looool... pretty sad to see but not surprising and he brought this onto himself Rolling Eyes

by BarcaLearning Thu May 10, 2018 12:28 pm

What happened with Southampton? they have been very good a quite a few seasons, I just know they kept selling a lot of their good players and I guess the owners made a lot of money?

by RealGunner Thu May 10, 2018 12:30 pm

by S Thu May 10, 2018 12:39 pm

What the fck did I just watch

No wonder Sevilla and Basel have it easy in the CL when facing this club

by Firenze Thu May 10, 2018 12:46 pm

RealGunner wrote:

team in holidays mode lol

that team has 1-0 loss written all over it

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu May 10, 2018 12:54 pm

Playing 5 at the back against Moysey rofl

Most negative manager of all time, makes Allardyce look like Guardiola ffs.

by Myesyats Thu May 10, 2018 1:09 pm

So much money spent and you have McTominay starting and Alexis Sanchez up front?

Amazing.

by Hapless_Hans Thu May 10, 2018 1:31 pm

Myesyats wrote:So much money spent and you have McTominay starting and Alexis Sanchez up front?

Amazing.

What's wrong with McTominay?

by Firenze Thu May 10, 2018 1:35 pm

it's like Mctominay's 5th start of the season, calma

he's also better than the likes of Andre Gomes and that Turkish FLOP Barca signed for big money recently m8

by Lucifer Thu May 10, 2018 1:48 pm

Firenze wrote:it's like Mctominay's 5th start of the season, calma

he's also better than the likes of Andre Gomes and that Turkish FLOP Barca signed for big money recently m8

Being better than Andre Gomes is meaningless mate. A piece of rock is better than Andre Gomes.

by Firenze Thu May 10, 2018 1:49 pm

that said, I don't get the impression Mctominay has any real future here unless he's happy rotating from the bench every few games and he's young enough where he should be hungry for consistent starts. Unless he suddenly starts putting in elite performances when he gets a chance, top teams, in the PL especially aren't exactly known for being patient unless you're already at the top level and we lespecially love trading in old toys for new ones.

by Hapless_Hans Thu May 10, 2018 2:06 pm

Joao Mario, Arnautovic, Lanzini

That's a top attack right there

inb4 Mourinho "Many West Ham players would start for my team"

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu May 10, 2018 2:14 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:Joao Mario, Arnautovic, Lanzini

That's a top attack right there

inb4 Mourinho "Many West Ham players would start for my team"

I still remember when we Beat Chelsea during his first run and he complained that we were playing youth players in defence because at the time Chelsea had no youth team.

Man is an absolute con artist.

by S Thu May 10, 2018 2:59 pm

Another Premier League record now available for #MCFC after that draw - if they beat Southampton on Sunday they’ll finish a minimum of 19 points ahead of #MUFC, a record league winning margain. United currently hold it with 18

by S Thu May 10, 2018 3:00 pm

19 - Since Sir Alex Ferguson retired at the end of the 2012-13 season, no Premier League team has drawn more matches nil-nil than Manchester United (19, level with Southampton). Dull.

by Firenze Thu May 10, 2018 3:02 pm

S wrote:19 - Since Sir Alex Ferguson retired at the end of the 2012-13 season, no Premier League team has drawn more matches nil-nil than Manchester United (19, level with Southampton). Dull.

Also won the most trophies of any team in the league since Sir Alex Ferguson retired. Melt.

Anyway, as expected..it's crazy but Lukaku is our talisman lmao, never win without him starting.

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