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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu May 30, 2019 12:18 am

@Doc wrote:When you have the usually calm and collected Jay saying he hates the guy, Emery's fraud status should have never been in doubt. But it's official: fraud.


Should have been obvious when two calm and collected guys like Jay and Me said it tbh.


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Post by chemicalboy99 on Thu May 30, 2019 12:35 am

@Firenze wrote:

Claude in tears, cuts an unreal promo on aubameyang too


That was a hard watch.

Poor guy needs some joy in his life.

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Post by Firenze on Thu May 30, 2019 12:45 am

Europa League will do that to a man. He looks like he's aged 20 years in the last 12 months. Gonna be me 10 months from now when we're knocked out by Dinamo Ausparagus
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Post by Myesyats on Thu May 30, 2019 12:46 am

So did Arsenal qualify for CL or not?
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Post by Doc on Thu May 30, 2019 12:50 am

I don't think so. Don't see why UEFA would give the CL spot to the loser of the final.

Went and look up that same question and found this...
What effect does an English team winning the Europa League have?
Arsenal and Chelsea are in the Europa League final and the winners will qualify for next season's Champions League group stages.

If the winners finish outside the top four in the Premier League (which is almost certainly the case for Arsenal), it will mean five English teams will be in the Champions League.

However if they do finish in the top four (as Chelsea have), then England will not get an extra spot. The team who finish third in the fifth-ranked league - France - will go into the Champions League group stages instead of the qualifiers.

Even if the winners have already qualified for the Champions League through league position, however, there is no spot for the beaten finalists.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47806720

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Post by Myesyats on Thu May 30, 2019 12:58 am

Oh okay. Thanks for the answer Doc
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Post by Kick on Thu May 30, 2019 2:31 am

@Myesyats wrote:So did Arsenal qualify for CL or not?


They do not.

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Post by Blue on Thu May 30, 2019 2:40 am

I wouldn't be too rough on Emery, the game was decided by one player and i may add a legendary player of the PL history.

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Post by CBarca on Thu May 30, 2019 4:20 am

As much as I think he's a fraud, he could use a summer with some signings.

The current arsenal squad is...pretty bad.

I don't think it would be a mistake to sack him tho tbh

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Post by urbaNRoots on Thu May 30, 2019 6:55 am

If Allegri can somehow be convinced to take over, I would sack him on the spot.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Thu May 30, 2019 10:05 am

Seeing that Emery is a serial EL winner it's kind of, well, STUPID to declare him a fraud based on a lost EL final.

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Post by Nishankly on Thu May 30, 2019 10:25 am

@Hapless_Hans wrote:Seeing that Emery is a serial EL winner it's kind of, well, STUPID to declare him a fraud based on a lost EL final.


But he lost at the only thing he's good at hmm
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Post by Myesyats on Thu May 30, 2019 11:06 am

Arsenal must truly be cursed that even a EL specialist got embarrased in this very competition
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu May 30, 2019 11:13 am

@Hapless_Hans wrote:Seeing that Emery is a serial EL winner it's kind of, well, STUPID to declare him a fraud based on a lost EL final.


Tbf most of us who don't rate him haven't done for multiple seasons.

I have no idea if Kaladin decided based on this one game but he deserves a chance to defend himself IMO.
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Post by El Gunner on Thu May 30, 2019 5:20 pm

I don't know if I'll go so far as the declare fraud, yet.

He doesn't seem the kind to budge to his philosophy (whatever that is), and adapt his tactics.

But on the other hand, we have sooooo many bum players. It's crazy.

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Post by Jay29 on Thu May 30, 2019 5:54 pm

My concern with him is that he wants Arsenal to be, in his words, a "chameleon team". He wants Arsenal to be able to play in any way for any situation, which sounds great on paper, but essentially means that the team will be a jack of all trades when every other decent team has one way and refines it until it's great. Emery will never commit to one style, so his teams never get great at any one style, and his players inevitably lose interest because he's constantly flipping from one method to another. Even with a bunch of bums at his disposal, he's performing worse than the previous coach. He won't last beyond next season.
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Post by boyzis on Thu May 30, 2019 7:26 pm

@Doc wrote:I don't think so. Don't see why UEFA would give the CL spot to the loser of the final.

Went and look up that same question and found this...
What effect does an English team winning the Europa League have?
Arsenal and Chelsea are in the Europa League final and the winners will qualify for next season's Champions League group stages.

If the winners finish outside the top four in the Premier League (which is almost certainly the case for Arsenal), it will mean five English teams will be in the Champions League.

However if they do finish in the top four (as Chelsea have), then England will not get an extra spot. The team who finish third in the fifth-ranked league - France - will go into the Champions League group stages instead of the qualifiers.

Even if the winners have already qualified for the Champions League through league position, however, there is no spot for the beaten finalists.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47806720


If Man City get ban from Champions League does that mean Arsenal qualify as they are 5th placed team in the league?
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Post by Doc on Thu May 30, 2019 8:47 pm

I assume that much though the defending EPL champions getting a CL ban is definitely not a good look for PL. Also, I highly doubt such a scenario would take place.

@Hapless_Hans wrote:Seeing that Emery is a serial EL winner it's kind of, well, STUPID to declare him a fraud based on a lost EL final.

Serial winner with Sevilla who already was winning it before him. His record in the EL (then called UEFA Cup) were a r32 KO with Valencia vs D.Kiev and a QF exit vs Atletico (Dr. Google is my friend).

Yes, I am nitpicking the man's career, a career in which I'll never have. Allow it imo.

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Post by Kaladin on Fri May 31, 2019 3:40 am


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Post by Myesyats on Fri May 31, 2019 7:30 am

This guy needs to take a chill pill, utter clown

Just accept you're not that big of a club ffs.
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