How difficult it is to get rid of unwanted players?

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Post by Art Morte Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:58 pm

Is it just me or has it become increasingly difficult to get rid of unwanted players?
Are there greater numbers of players to choose from than, say, 10 years ago?

Let's take the mighty Liverpool for example: We've got at least half a dozen of players we'd probably be better off selling: Poulsen, Maxi, N'Gog, Joe Cole, Aquilani, Degen... And most of these players have got some name to themselves, you'd imagine there would be some interest from clubs around Europe.

Man City are struggling to offload some of their surplus players (Adebayor, Santa Cruz, Wright-Phillips) and it seems to me that the marketplace is surprisingly difficult when it comes to selling fringe players (but who still could be rather good).

Or has it always been like this and I'm just noticing it better only now when Liverpool are facing the issue?

Or do you feel the same?

Could the reason be that there's so many players nowadays that most of the time clubs can find better value for money from up-and-coming players?
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Post by Adit Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:06 pm

Its not only a matter of transfer fee,there are several factors which affects a transfer and player preference will always comes first.

We are trying to offload leon but he refuses to go,becaus he want a CL club or he want to stay with us untill a offer come.

If you are a Big and rich cub and you want to get rid off some dead wood ,you are never gona get reasonable money in the transfer market.
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Post by mr-r34 Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:21 pm

We don't even want money for them, there wages off our list is good enough, they just want the money, cause they know there useless and no1 would pay them that much
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:24 pm

Ask Newcastle we have been trying to get rid of our deadwood all summer.....

James Perch, Routledge, Alan Smith etc etc

But no one want's them lol, we are supposedly trying to offer Routledge +7m for N'Zogbia.

I'll be amazed if Whelan accepts that.
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Post by Red Alert Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:25 pm

There's nothing wrong with Aquilani. Mad <~ Closest thing to a mad face.
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Post by RealGunner Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:25 pm

hes off to fiorentina
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Post by Iceman Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:29 pm

If you're giving your players very good wages (A la Arsenal), then its very hard to offload them because they won't be willing to take a pay-cut and no clubs would be willing to give them that much money
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Post by Red Alert Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:30 pm

That was just a rumour RG. The report said he was already in Italy when he was in training yesterday. He played the first half of today against Hull.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:35 pm

Ah that explain's why Smith does'nt want to leave he get's 48k a week( our highest earner gets 55k)

Who in thier right mind is going to give someone as useless as Alan Smith lol
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:35 pm

Ah that explain's why Smith does'nt want to leave he get's 48k a week( our highest earner gets 55k)

Who in thier right mind is going to give someone as useless as Alan Smith that lol
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Post by Red Alert Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:38 pm

^ Purslow's worst. 60k for Poulsen. 90k to Cole. Jova 120k. El Zhar + Degen both get 60k ish. Shocked
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Post by che Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:13 pm

ahem... list of players who had their contracts terminated by valencia this year because noone wanted to pay any money for them

del horno
aaron
renan
navarro
sunny
nacho

plus chori who could only be loaned out to river because noone outside of russia wanted to take on his wages

plus fernandes who we sold for like 3 million

so yes, it is hard to get rid of players...
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Post by Ganso Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:17 pm

che wrote:ahem... list of players who had their contracts terminated by valencia this year because noone wanted to pay any money for them

del horno
aaron
renan
navarro
sunny
nacho

plus chori who could only be loaned out to river because noone outside of russia wanted to take on his wages

plus fernandes who we sold for like 3 million

so yes, it is hard to get rid of players...
We bought Renan.


Gladly,hes just a bench warmer,that guy is awful
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Post by Red Alert Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:17 pm

It's so easy on fifa. Put a player up for transfer and he leaves on the first advance thingie. Except for a certain Joe Cole. pale
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Post by Raptorgunner Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:41 pm

Very hard just ask Wenger lol.
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Post by Sushi Master Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:18 pm

Yeah, it's mostly due to wages. Most of the time they have to get a pay cut, and since they are greedy bastards who prefer to earn money while not playing at all, they'd rather stay and rot on the bench. Amauri would be an example, or the deadwood at Arsenal.
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Post by Guest Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:43 pm

Wages are horrible...they are so underrated when considering a financial model.

Everyone harps about, OMG, THEY PAID X MIL FOR THIS GUY...but don't consider the wages.

a free transfer could end up more expensive than a 10M buy

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Post by MacPhisto/MirrorBallMan Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:44 pm

EXTREMELY HARD

You really wanna get rid of them? Then mutually end the contract, although that itself is a hard thing to do- the player won't accept that if they play for a big club. Even if you threaten to freeze them out of the squad, they won't budge. But if you do manage it, it could be worth it considering you might not be able to sell them for much anyway, and you don't want to pay their salary.
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Post by free_cat Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:57 pm

Sepi wrote:Wages are horrible...they are so underrated when considering a financial model.

Everyone harps about, OMG, THEY PAID X MIL FOR THIS GUY...but don't consider the wages.

a free transfer could end up more expensive than a 10M buy

Are you kidding me? Wages "underated" when considering a financial model? Maybe in this forum, where economic analysis is not deep. But in real world, wages is the first financial consideration, son.

Oh, and I think that if wages are high, it has always been hard: SAVIOLA as an example of many years ago, and he was a good player then.


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Post by ErPupone Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:57 am

Very difficult, hell we had to pay Doni to leave our club.
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Post by Art Morte Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:06 am

All right, so it's not just me who sees it this way.

UEFA should start a Deadwood European Cup competition.
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Post by M99 Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:51 pm

Extremely difficult, unless you have Garrone as president.
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Post by Lord Spencer Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:39 pm

The equation is like this:

Difficulty of getting red of deadwood players =

(The player's wage*100000 + how much the club wants him to leave *100000)/(Player's ability+Player's age & Potential coefficient)
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