Re: Who is the best Brazilian in Europe?

by Adit Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:01 am

Ramires on the list :facepalm:

by guest7 Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:02 am

Lionel Messi wrote:
omarish wrote:no marcelo?

alves, silva and marcelo imo
Marcelo isn't on Alves' and Silva's level yet

easily on the top5 brazilians

by Kick Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:02 am

It's gotta be Ramires, most underrated player on the forum.

only kidding. It's Alves when talking about how they are doing a club level, at international level it would be Lucio.

by Lord Hades Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:09 am

The Franchise wrote:
diptiman wrote:
The Franchise wrote:
diptiman wrote:umm marcelo not included in this list and ramires ,maicon, david luiz included?

alves is the best, thiago silva,marcelo follow closely.. hulk still has something to prove at the highest level with all due respect to him.. the better brazilian attackers are not playing in europe as of now

You realise Hulk has played and done well in the CL right?

yeah but how far have porto reached with him.. hes not played in the top cl games you know that right// he hasnt scored against really big opponents and led porto to victory against them.. hence

And thats his fault? If you put Messi on those Porto teams, they dont reach too far either. They do pretty well for themselves I think.

Top CL games? He has played Chelsea, Arsenal, Manchester Utd, Atletico Madrid (who won the Europa League), Barcelona and Villareal.

Hulk is about alot more then scoring goals, in fact before last season he wasnt a good goalscorer at all. He brings other things to the table.

He performed very well in those games too, other then against Barca where he barely got the ball because of obvious reasons and he wasnt at his very best vs Chelsea either. But he gave Arsenal are troublesome time, he abused both La Liga clubs and Vidic didnt have a comfy ride either and Man Utd fans were chanting their famous "Fergie, sign him up" they reserve for players they feel did well.

I just dont understand this not proven thing. I mean, nobody say Santi Carzola is unproven, but he has done less then Hulk.

Now Falcao plays for Atletico, I guess if he plays well he is now "proven"? Same went for Lisandro Lopez, Lucho, Cissokho and others...all of a sudden, nobody says they arent proven anymore.

he is in the portugese league so thats not the biggest... so to prove himself he has to take porto far in the cl.. far means actually beat big teams and prove himself.. which he hasnt done..i never said he is bad but he isnt wc.. and has to play in either the big leagues or star in the cl or international tourneys

by LeVersacci Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:11 am

No Marcelo no party :coffee:

by Giovanni10 Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:49 am

Anti-DNA wrote:No Marcelo no party

I second that! pointless poll is pointless.

by S Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:52 am

Thiago Silva and Dani Alves are the two best brazilian players in Europe currently..

by Vibe Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:57 am

Where is Felipe Melo?

by uzonero Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:00 am

it has to be silva

by Red Alert Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:11 am

Voted for TS.

How on Earth did Maicon make the list? Shocked

by Rossoneri Ninja Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:20 am

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by BiasedMilanFan3 Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:34 am

Thiago Silva!

by billy_gr Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:47 am

Alves and Silva

by The Franchise Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:44 pm

diptiman wrote:
The Franchise wrote:
diptiman wrote:
The Franchise wrote:
diptiman wrote:umm marcelo not included in this list and ramires ,maicon, david luiz included?

alves is the best, thiago silva,marcelo follow closely.. hulk still has something to prove at the highest level with all due respect to him.. the better brazilian attackers are not playing in europe as of now

You realise Hulk has played and done well in the CL right?

yeah but how far have porto reached with him.. hes not played in the top cl games you know that right// he hasnt scored against really big opponents and led porto to victory against them.. hence

And thats his fault? If you put Messi on those Porto teams, they dont reach too far either. They do pretty well for themselves I think.

Top CL games? He has played Chelsea, Arsenal, Manchester Utd, Atletico Madrid (who won the Europa League), Barcelona and Villareal.

Hulk is about alot more then scoring goals, in fact before last season he wasnt a good goalscorer at all. He brings other things to the table.

He performed very well in those games too, other then against Barca where he barely got the ball because of obvious reasons and he wasnt at his very best vs Chelsea either. But he gave Arsenal are troublesome time, he abused both La Liga clubs and Vidic didnt have a comfy ride either and Man Utd fans were chanting their famous "Fergie, sign him up" they reserve for players they feel did well.

I just dont understand this not proven thing. I mean, nobody say Santi Carzola is unproven, but he has done less then Hulk.

Now Falcao plays for Atletico, I guess if he plays well he is now "proven"? Same went for Lisandro Lopez, Lucho, Cissokho and others...all of a sudden, nobody says they arent proven anymore.

he is in the portugese league so thats not the biggest... so to prove himself he has to take porto far in the cl.. far means actually beat big teams and prove himself.. which he hasnt done..i never said he is bad but he isnt wc.. and has to play in either the big leagues or star in the cl or international tourneys

Take them far? Have you seen the teams they Porto go out to? They are better then Porto, there is nothing he can do about it. You could literally swap him with Messi and they still wouldnt go any further.

Why does "beating" the best teams prove anything...thats a team goal.

If he plays well and does all he can do, what more do you want?

He isnt world class based on what? If he moved to La Liga tommorow and had a season exactly like last, he all of a sudden would be?

by Swanhends Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:51 pm

definitely thiago silva

by BarrileteCosmico Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:42 pm

omarish wrote:no marcelo?

alves, silva and marcelo imo

Given that there is only 1 vote for 'Other' I don't think that's a problem Rolling Eyes

by che Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:44 pm

jonas

DAT PASS

no seriously, as much as i hate him it's alves...

by Ali Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:44 pm

Ramires on that list
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Real Madrid fans saying Marcelo
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by Lord Hades Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:18 pm

The Franchise wrote:
diptiman wrote:
The Franchise wrote:
diptiman wrote:
The Franchise wrote:
diptiman wrote:umm marcelo not included in this list and ramires ,maicon, david luiz included?

alves is the best, thiago silva,marcelo follow closely.. hulk still has something to prove at the highest level with all due respect to him.. the better brazilian attackers are not playing in europe as of now

You realise Hulk has played and done well in the CL right?

yeah but how far have porto reached with him.. hes not played in the top cl games you know that right// he hasnt scored against really big opponents and led porto to victory against them.. hence

And thats his fault? If you put Messi on those Porto teams, they dont reach too far either. They do pretty well for themselves I think.

Top CL games? He has played Chelsea, Arsenal, Manchester Utd, Atletico Madrid (who won the Europa League), Barcelona and Villareal.

Hulk is about alot more then scoring goals, in fact before last season he wasnt a good goalscorer at all. He brings other things to the table.

He performed very well in those games too, other then against Barca where he barely got the ball because of obvious reasons and he wasnt at his very best vs Chelsea either. But he gave Arsenal are troublesome time, he abused both La Liga clubs and Vidic didnt have a comfy ride either and Man Utd fans were chanting their famous "Fergie, sign him up" they reserve for players they feel did well.

I just dont understand this not proven thing. I mean, nobody say Santi Carzola is unproven, but he has done less then Hulk.

Now Falcao plays for Atletico, I guess if he plays well he is now "proven"? Same went for Lisandro Lopez, Lucho, Cissokho and others...all of a sudden, nobody says they arent proven anymore.

he is in the portugese league so thats not the biggest... so to prove himself he has to take porto far in the cl.. far means actually beat big teams and prove himself.. which he hasnt done..i never said he is bad but he isnt wc.. and has to play in either the big leagues or star in the cl or international tourneys

Take them far? Have you seen the teams they Porto go out to? They are better then Porto, there is nothing he can do about it. You could literally swap him with Messi and they still wouldnt go any further.

Why does "beating" the best teams prove anything...thats a team goal.

If he plays well and does all he can do, what more do you want?

He isnt world class based on what? If he moved to La Liga tommorow and had a season exactly like last, he all of a sudden would be?

precisely, he would be.. he has to play in one of the top leagues to be considered the best brazilian and better than say alves or marcelo or thiago silva who play for european behemoths.. its unfair because players in smaller leagues can be great which is true but till he plays in a big league for a small/big club he cant be called really 'proven' .. if falcao fails in atletico this season will he be regarded as world class?

by guest7 Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:21 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
omarish wrote:no marcelo?

alves, silva and marcelo imo
Given that there is only 1 vote for 'Other' I don't think that's a problem

It's like you make a stupid top 10 balon d'or list but put messi on the top so it doesnt matter becouse he would win anyways

marcelo is easily top 5 brazilian in europe atm, he should be in the list, imo best after silva and alves

by the xcx Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:26 pm

What exactly has Hernanes and Lucio done to in that list instead of Marcelo. But Il give the OP the credit he deserves because of Ramires in that list Laughing

by S Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:28 pm

The xcx wrote:What exactly has Hernanes and Lucio done to in that list instead of Marcelo. But Il give the OP the credit he deserves because of Ramires in that list

Clearly you dont watch Serie A..

by Sushi Master Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:32 pm

Renato Agusto is another great player missing in that list. I mean instead of Ramires or David Luiz (is good but has a lot to prove).

by EarlyPrototype Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:34 pm

Thiago Silva for me

Marcelo deserves to be on the list though at least ahead of Ramires.

by the xcx Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:36 pm

Surag.Blueguy wrote:
The xcx wrote:What exactly has Hernanes and Lucio done to in that list instead of Marcelo. But Il give the OP the credit he deserves because of Ramires in that list

Clearly you dont watch Serie A..

Maybe, but in 1 year of hes career in Seria A, how is that better than Marcelos 5 years in the worlds biggest club?

by Sushi Master Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:40 pm

The xcx wrote:
Surag.Blueguy wrote:
The xcx wrote:What exactly has Hernanes and Lucio done to in that list instead of Marcelo. But Il give the OP the credit he deserves because of Ramires in that list

Clearly you dont watch Serie A..
Maybe, but in 1 year of hes career in Seria A, how is that better than Marcelos 5 years in the worlds biggest club?

You mean his first half decent season? Laughing

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