Basically today it was official that Messi beats CR for Balon D Or

Se7en wrote:

And Messi is always a GOAT in friendlies, as soon as it becomes a official game he goes back to playing "deep"

Ignorance, Messi has scored 11 goals and provided 11 assists in his last 16 games for Argentina its obviously because he's playing a lot closer to goal now and not all of these are friendlys infact a lot of them have been WC qualifiers and lets be honest south american qualifying is very competitive.

Instead of turning a blind eye to it, accept the fact he was playing closer to the half way line than the 6 yard box

He doesnt have to now because Di Maria and Gago are the ones in deeper positions creating for him so he doesnt have to create and score and basically do everything for Argentina.

I can accept that the reason Ronaldo is poor for Portugal is due to a lack of service why cant any of you accept the reason Messi's performances were below par was because his role was completely different and played a lot deeper?

Also Messi scored in his last official game, ill-informed as usual

messi doesn't score = HE DOESN'T SCORE LOLOLOL

messi scores = IT'S ONLY A FRIENDLY AND IT'S HIS TEAMMATES WORK LOLOLOL

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he scored more goals in this game than in all of his copa americas and world cups combined

Ganso wrote:he scored more goals in this game than in all of his copa americas and world cups combined

Not true he has scored 4 goals in said tournaments ( 2 of them tournamnes when he was kid ) troll moar

no goals in 2010 WC,2011 CA

1 goal in 2006 WC,1 goal in 2007 CA

Ganso wrote:no goals in 2010 WC,2011 CA

1 goal in 2006 WC,1 goal in 2007 CA

He had atleast 2 in 2007 in CA that i and wikipedia are aware of

Plus the comparisons are not fair as he was a kid in 2006 and 2007 and in 2010 he was ridiculously unlucky and i keep saying this but its fact he played closer to Mascherano than Tevez ffs

Has Messi ever played as close to goal in these competitions as he has done for Argentina in last season?

No is the answer the reason he's scoring for Argentina now is because he's playing close to goal like he does for Barcelona the drastic difference in goal return in last year is obvious

i don't really understand the point of this argument? Are the people trying to say he does not perform for his NT?

He is usually their best player everytime he plays. How is that not good performance? What do you want him to do, create and score himself every game?

The antimessi's are getting annihilated in every thread

yes,i have been proven wrong.messi is a goat in official competitions

But but but its Brazil...it doesn't matter if I've never heard of the guys playing as cb's its Brazil

Ganso wrote:yes,i have been proven wrong.messi is a goat in official competitions

If by WC and Copa..... He hardly played in 2006 and in 2007 Copa he was voted in team of tournament and young player of tournament....

In 2010 and 2011 as i pointed out many many times..... he played so f*ckin deep to do anything the comparison between Messi's average position between the WC and Copa and last year is drastic and thats not just friendlies thats WC qualifiers as well..... if you chose to ignore all these facts thats not my problem....

And i never said Messi was a GOAT in international tournaments but there are reasons for that as i explained many times.

Anyway as i pointed out many many times as well which seems to be to hard for people to understand is that you dont have to score to perform.....

As i said many many times Messi has always performed for Argentina outside of the Maradona era.... because he doesnt score doesnt mean he's been shit.

Half of Messi's goals for Argentina have come in the last year.... why? because he's playing closer to goal how hard is this to understand

This is going to be hilarious to bump later when the World Cup starts and Mehssi chokes again

Even Ronaldo was GOAT in the WC qualification rounds but as soon as the actual competition started he only scored 1 goal Same is going to happen for Mehssi

Ronaldo was GOAT against Khazkstan and Azerbaijan. Messi can actually perform for his national team in big games and score against the big teams.

Where was all the talk about Ronaldo this weekend btw?

Albiceleste wrote:Ronaldo was GOAT against Khazkstan and Azerbaijan. Messi can actually perform for his national team in big games and score against the big teams.

Where was all the talk about Ronaldo this weekend btw?

actually ronaldo scored quite a few in the qualification round including the playoffs against decent teams like denmark, bosnia, so i can use the same arguement to say he has started performing for portugal

i will bump this in 2014

Seriously, now the wanking is getting ridiculous

Are people seriously saying that Brazil's defence led by scrubs like Bruno Uvini And Juan is better than Argentina's defence

Messi is a great player and he put in an inspired performance but stop acting like he scored a hattrick in a World Cup final and has officially surpassed Pele, Maradona.

This is a GOAT performance.

Lord Hades wrote:

Albiceleste wrote:Ronaldo was GOAT against Khazkstan and Azerbaijan. Messi can actually perform for his national team in big games and score against the big teams.

Where was all the talk about Ronaldo this weekend btw?

actually ronaldo scored quite a few in the qualification round including the playoffs against decent teams like denmark, bosnia, so i can use the same arguement to say he has started performing for portugal

scoring=performing for ronaldo

performing is something like messi did against ecuador last week. involving in all 4 goals, not scoring 1 tap-in and getting lost.

actually comparing cr to messi is becoming laughable lately

Se7en wrote:
And Messi is always a GOAT in friendlies, as soon as it becomes a official game he goes back to playing "deep"

Messi was never GOAT in friendlies and never scored so many goals in previous years stop lying. He only became scoring goat in 2012 after he played as a forward. here is the proof


And you say playing as a forward did not help him score more? what you know about positions and tactics..take your bias to r.madrid section and watch argentina more

billionmillion wrote:

Se7en wrote:
And Messi is always a GOAT in friendlies, as soon as it becomes a official game he goes back to playing "deep"

Messi was never GOAT in friendlies and never scored so many goals in previous years stop lying. He only became scoring goat in 2012 after he played as a forward. here is the proof


And you say playing as a forward did not help him score more? what you know about positions and tactics..take your bias to r.madrid section and watch argentina more

You can see the change that mole is talking about in those stat. In 2011 messi had only scored 4 goals but made 10 assist because he was playing so deep, but then that change in 2012 and he has scored 7 goals and only made 1 assist because now he doesnt need to drop deep as much..

meanwhile,messi in official matches:

I actually forgot a thread like this was made.

"But, but, but.. Messi played deep" yada yada yada.

Just look at Sneijder's performance in 2010 to see this trollgic.

27.6.12

Now it's official.