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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:21 pm

We have bought Casemiro as a young DM. Kondogbia won't come

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Post by sportsczy Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:03 pm

Casemiro is going to Castilla...  it's been all but confirmed.  His contract allows us to send him down. We bought him to keep Castilla from being demoted with the likely losses of Jese, Morata and Denis.
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Post by Cyborg Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:45 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Kaka and Higuain should be sold and a backup striker bought.

what is morata then?
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:21 pm

sportsczy wrote:Casemiro is going to Castilla...  it's been all but confirmed.  His contract allows us to send him down. We bought him to keep Castilla from being demoted with the likely losses of Jese, Morata and Denis.

no he is a first team player. He isn't gonna play much but thats his fault for accepting us

http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite/en/Actualidad_Primer_Equipo_en/1193041476158/1330151543903/noticia/ComunicadoOficial/Official_announcement_2013-06-10.htm
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Post by Onyx Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:49 pm

Cyborg wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:Kaka and Higuain should be sold and a backup striker bought.

what is morata then?

Morata would also be a backup. How he isn't good enough to be 1st choice backup. Ideally we should get an experienced CF who's prepared to be a backup.

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Post by Valkyrja Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:53 pm

Kaka and Coentrao to leave, Casemiro to be loaned. End of story.
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Post by sportsczy Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:29 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
sportsczy wrote:Casemiro is going to Castilla...  it's been all but confirmed.  His contract allows us to send him down.  We bought him to keep Castilla from being demoted with the likely losses of Jese, Morata and Denis.

no he is a first team player. He isn't gonna play much but thats his fault for accepting us

http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite/en/Actualidad_Primer_Equipo_en/1193041476158/1330151543903/noticia/ComunicadoOficial/Official_announcement_2013-06-10.htm
We did a similar thing with Morata too. We signed a contract extension with him and announced him as a first team player. Fact is, he still played mostly at Castilla. It will be the same with Casemiro. It means nothing unless the player's contract excludes youth team play and, based on the spanish Madrid forums, it doesn't.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:31 am

Morata was inscribed with both Castilla and Madrid same as Nacho. Casemiro is only inscribed with the first team and not the second team. This season Morata and Nacho will only be first team players as they have not been inscribed with Castilla. Toril has confirmed this in his interview
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Post by Adit Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:23 am

Players registered as First team players cant play for Castilla sport..only the other way around..so yeah Casmeiro is going to play with first team.
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Post by sportsczy Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:32 am

I'll wait and see if Casemiro gets inscribed as Castilla too. You can inscribe a player all the way until you release final rosters for La Liga and Adelante... which doesn't happen until after the end of the mercato.

It's not Toril's decision tbh. It's Carlo's. We did the exact same thing with Morata last summer;

@Adit. You can be signed up for both. Deadline is the end of August or early Sept i think.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:45 am

sportsczy wrote:I'll wait and see if Casemiro gets inscribed as Castilla too. You can inscribe a player all the way until you release final rosters for La Liga and Adelante... which doesn't happen until after the end of the mercato.

It's not Toril's decision tbh. It's Carlo's. We did the exact same thing with Morata last summer;

@Adit. You can be signed up for both. Deadline is the end of August or early Sept i think.

if Carlo doesn't want him we will sell him. Toril has made it clear who wont be playing for Castilla again and all the aforementioned players are part of it. He said it after the last game in the season. They will absolutely not alternate between the two
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Post by sportsczy Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:20 pm

You want a sig bet HM2 in regards to Casemiro?  If he plays a game for Castilla, you owe me a month and vice versa.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:23 pm

sportsczy wrote:You want a sig bet HM2 in regards to Casemiro?  If he plays a game for Castilla, you owe me a month and vice versa.

with pleasure Proud
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Post by Adit Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:37 pm

Actually sports..The rules are that

1.A player registered for Castilla can play for the senior team and will have a jersey number of 25 + when he play for the first team.

2.Player registered as first teamer can not play for the B team.

There is no such thing as registering for both.Its just registering for Castilla..

Also note that a Castilla player who has played more than 20 games for first team can not play for Castilla again that year.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:44 pm

Adit wrote:
Also note that a Castilla player who has played more than 20 games for first team can not play for Castilla again that year.

That was scrapped going into last season I think or was it a number less than that, I don't remember

Morata was registered with both the senior team and Castilla last season and so was Nacho, hence why they trained with the first team but still were able to play with Castilla. Their numbers was within 25-30. Other castilla players like Denis and co got numbers after 30 because they weren't part of the first team but can still play there
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Post by MadridiCanada Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:56 pm

we could have bought thiago for 17 mil.. but oh well ...
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Post by RealGunner Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:00 pm

Not sure he would have joined Madrid. It's very difficult to jump from Barca to Madrid and vice versa.
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:38 am

and where exactly would Thiago have played??? if I want a CM from another team its only Torres but we can't get him obviously Sad
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Post by Valkyrja Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:53 am

halamadrid2 wrote:and where exactly would Thiago have played??? if I want a CM from another team its only Torres but we can't get him obviously Sad

There's no chance to get Oliver ?
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:57 am

only if he takes the route of joining another team before coming to us which I cant see
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Post by Error Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:09 am

^Bleh. All that offensive talent and they suggest we should go with Modric, Alonso, Khedira mid? Gonna bang my head to a wall if that will happen. It should be Alonso and Illara or either Alonso/Illara/Khedira and Modric. Or in case we shift to 3-man mid then it should be Özil/Isco/Di Maria + two from Alonso/Khedira/Modric, Illara.

Not really excited about Benzema/Higuain and Özil/Isco rotation either...
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:20 pm

according to albiols agent they are negotiating with napoli atm and could close the transfer in the coming days.

napoli should get denis as well so that we can turn them into real madrid

that confirms we will be after a lb if coentrao leaves because nacho will be playing his natural position now as a cb (ramos' back up). judging by the amount of cards ramos gets nacho will get alot of playing time banana

apparently I read an article on DC that Casado could be brought up to play back up to Marcelo :brickwall:

Also napoli are thinking of bidding 30ME for Higgy. will he take it do you think??
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Post by Error Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:47 pm

- Albiol close with move to Napoli
- Coentrao apparently wants to leave
- Pepe constantly linked with City

Shouldn't we be a little bit more worried about possible defender backups? Good defenders are quite hard to come by or at least for a cheap... and no, Nacho, Casado and Arbeloa is not going to cut it. Maybe we could lure someone like Mangala in case Pepe and Albiol leaves, although it's Porto we are talking about No
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Post by Nedved Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:32 pm

We should keep Pepe. But I am worried about left back options, if Coentrao leaves. Nacho is no good as a left back
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Post by Onyx Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:07 pm

Coentrao should stay. Marcelo's unreliable currently and it's unknown where he's improved defensively or not. If Coentrao does go then a solid LB should be bought.

In terms of Pepe, if he wants to stay as backup he should stay.

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