- Il Polpo Paul | Paul Pogba

Money.  Juve are offering 4+ mil gross (2+ mil net) while several other teams are offering 6-8 mil gross (3-4 mil net).  That's the only reason...  gap is too big.  Everything else anyone says would be bs imo.

I think that Juve's impact in CL this season will eventually have some to do with it too, one way or another.  I would imagine he wants to play for a team that can pretend like they can win the CL, even if they're not one of the favorites... a solid dark horse at the very least.

sportsczy wrote:Money.  Juve are offering 4+ mil gross (2+ mil net) while several other teams are offering 6-8 mil gross (3-4 mil net).  That's the only reason...  gap is too big.  Everything else anyone says would be bs imo.

I think that Juve's impact in CL this season will eventually have some to do with it too, one way or another.  I would imagine he wants to play for a team that can pretend like they can win the CL, even if they're not one of the favorites... a solid dark horse at the very least.

All of your talk about pogba is from your imagination

You sound to be too interested in a Pogba transfer and you seem to believe any media report which are highly false,ureliable sources.
Pogba leaving for free or for like 5 mln € is a stupid joke which no one can believe atm,probably even you.
Even if Pogba leaves it will bring us huge moneys,there is no way we can let him go for free or few moneys.
Right now he is a regular starter on a top club,playing regularly at CL and he can be a future star,legend to Juve.At other clubs like Real,Barca or Bayern level he will stay under Ronaldo or Messi images.
He is happy and is currently playing at max of what he can achieve or very close to it.So calm down and stop believing any news on internet.

Well his father talking to Telefoot tends to get my attention (just like his cousin and brother).  The only other person is Raiola... but he's a troll.  So i take everything he says with a grain of salt.

Pogba himself tends to talk through his family in France because there's a lot of garbage reports coming out of Italy.  The standard line has been for 2 years that there's "nothing imminent" and "no talks have been scheduled".  Now, Pogba himself said that there are negotiations with Juve.  My feeling is that there is going to be some kind of compromise...  Juve aren't stupid.  Far from.  

I actually want him to stay at Juve because i think Madrid and Barca are a mess.  I'd never want a France NT player to go there....  they ruined Benz and are ruining Varane.  Players should not go there to develop.  You need to be at your top before going to those imo.  Same with Bayern.  If he has to go, i'd rather he leave for the EPL.  

BUT, if Juve are willing to get just a tad bit more ambitious (i.e. increase their wage structure), then there's no doubt he'd stay.

sportsczy wrote:Well his father talking to Telefoot tends to get my attention (just like his cousin and brother).  The only other person is Raiola... but he's a troll.  So i take everything he says with a grain of salt.

Pogba himself tends to talk through his family in France because there's a lot of garbage reports coming out of Italy.  The standard line has been for 2 years that there's "nothing imminent" and "no talks have been scheduled".  Now, Pogba himself said that there are negotiations with Juve.  My feeling is that there is going to be some kind of compromise...  Juve aren't stupid.  Far from.  

I actually want him to stay at Juve because i think Madrid and Barca are a mess.  I'd never want a France NT player to go there....  they ruined Benz and are ruining Varane.  Players should not go there to develop.  You need to be at your top before going to those imo.  Same with Bayern.  If he has to go, i'd rather he leave for the EPL.  

BUT, if Juve are willing to get just a tad bit more ambitious (i.e. increase their wage structure), then there's no doubt he'd stay.

Just saying, Vidal already signed for Man Utd.

Who cares about Vidal?  Vidal signed a long-term contract with Juve.  The leverage is with Juve there, nobody else.  Juve don't have the leverage with Pogba with his contract expiring soon.

sportsczy wrote:Who cares about Vidal?  Vidal signed a long-term contract with Juve.  The leverage is with Juve there, nobody else.  Juve don't have the leverage with Pogba with his contract expiring soon.

Why are you talking about Pogba's exit, when he just just just just said that he will renew soon...? Like do you think the opposite way? So if I say i will chear for juventus forever, you will think that I will be an Interista soon...?

sportsczy wrote:and this is the same Devi that's been saying that Pogba is renewing "very soon" going on 2,5 years now

Pogba had something he could have triggered if he didn't get the playing time (according to Pogba's father when he talked to Telefoot about 4 months back). Juve played him to death so that didn't happen last year. Smart by Juve.

well if something I am closer to the truth than you

it's cute how defensive juve fans get everytime someone mentions the possibility that one of their stars might be leaving

Your comment doesn't makes sense...we are not being defensive towards a possible transfer,we are just being realistic as not all reports you find on internet are reliable.

juvealbanian wrote:Your comment doesn't makes sense...we are not being defensive towards a possible transfer,we are just being realistic as not all reports you find on internet are reliable.

juvealbanian wrote:Your comment doesn't makes sense...we are not being defensive towards a possible transfer,we are just being realistic as not all reports you find on internet are reliable.

you're being defensive in the way you're responding to sports .all he's doing is basic rational speculation .

some of you arrogantly believe that guys like vidal and pogba WILL NEVER LEAVE and it's impossible to speculate on transfers with you .

farfan wrote:

juvealbanian wrote:Your comment doesn't makes sense...we are not being defensive towards a possible transfer,we are just being realistic as not all reports you find on internet are reliable.

you're being defensive in the way you're responding to sports .all he's doing is basic rational speculation .

some of you arrogantly believe that guys like vidal and pogba WILL NEVER LEAVE and it's impossible to speculate on transfers with you .

its funny how sports has "sold" Pogba for the whole 2 years he's been with us but you felt the need to overlook that and bend to his claims....

no one has ever "arrogantly" believed Pogba or Vidal will NEVER leave, but we have always been factual, sportsczy the vile crocodile in 3 seasons has confidently sold Vidal to Real Madrid 3 times in a row and Pogba to PSG since Jan transfer window of 2013 and the funny thing is he is so confident but every time his story turns out to be bullsh*t he spins a new tale like the player doesn't wanna sign a new contract (he did that with Vidal and he is doing it with Pogba again)

but why did i just waste my time typing all this for a minion of sportszcy? Please cook up more thrash from your dreams and report them here, we surely welcome well spun tales....

elm_baraja_shaman wrote:

farfan wrote:

juvealbanian wrote:Your comment doesn't makes sense...we are not being defensive towards a possible transfer,we are just being realistic as not all reports you find on internet are reliable.

you're being defensive in the way you're responding to sports .all he's doing is basic rational speculation .

some of you arrogantly believe that guys like vidal and pogba WILL NEVER LEAVE and it's impossible to speculate on transfers with you .

its funny how sports has "sold" Pogba for the whole 2 years he's been with us but you felt the need to overlook that and bend to his claims....

or maybe i don't keep track of what sports has been saying for 2 years ?
i was only commenting on the present discussion and the way you're jumping the guy for simply speculating on a player's future .
teams like juventus don't have the resources nor the sporting insensitives to accommodate young stars in light of the stiff competition from premier league and spanish clubs .
during lyon's heyday , we had daily stories about potential departures . some of them materialized and others didn't . but i don't recall ever getting my panties in a bunch over these stories like some of you did .

" vile crocodile " ? " minion " ?

and you guys have said Pogba is renewing in the next weeks going on 2 years now ... all i'm saying is that Pogba wants to get paid market wages. He's not going to give Juve a discount. If Juve pay up, he stays. If Juve don't want to, he leaves. In the end, it's really that simple.

Lyon is lyon. Juve is juve. Lyon is nowhere near juve...

Sportsczy is still right in this though. Especially considering the fact that his agent is Raiola, he will always go crazy for the big moneyz.

I do believe we will renew with him, but I can imagine he will be sold in the following years.

dronte wrote:Sportsczy is still right in this though. Especially considering the fact that his agent is Raiola, he will always go crazy for the big moneyz.

I do believe we will renew with him, but I can imagine he will be sold in the following years.

His value is still rising and probably is in its peak. If he gets older his value may decrease. So its a good sign that we didn't sell him in his almost peak price.

He's 21 years old and improving considerably every year... Still has a ways to go before he reaches his ceiling. So how has his value peaked? Please explain.

sportsczy wrote:He's 21 years old and improving considerably every year... Still has a ways to go before he reaches his ceiling. So how has his value peaked? Please explain.

I agree. It's crazy to say his value has peaked.

farfan wrote:

elm_baraja_shaman wrote:

farfan wrote:

you're being defensive in the way you're responding to sports .all he's doing  is basic rational speculation .

some of you arrogantly believe that guys like vidal and pogba WILL NEVER LEAVE and it's impossible to speculate on transfers with you .

its funny how sports has "sold" Pogba for the whole 2 years he's been with us but you felt the need to overlook that and bend to his claims....

or maybe i don't keep track of what sports has been saying for 2 years ?
i was only commenting on the present discussion and the way you're jumping the guy for simply speculating on a player's future .
teams like juventus don't  have the  resources  nor   the sporting insensitives to accommodate young stars in light of the stiff competition from premier league and spanish clubs  .
during lyon's heyday , we had daily stories about potential departures . some of them materialized and others didn't . but i don't recall ever getting my panties in a bunch over these stories like some of you did  .

" vile crocodile " ?  " minion " ?  

maybe you should have before feeling the need to blurt support....

if I remember well we weren't going to be able to keep hold of Vidal this summer too according to people like you cos we are Siena, we needed money to balance our books....

also putting Juve and Lyon on the same sentence just shows the goals you came here with
ps: and lest I forget no Juve fan gives a damn if Pogba leaves tomorrow or in the next 10 years, so far as we are getting that 80m+ price a price which ranks among what "top" clubs sell their prized assets for and Lyon won't be seeing in a while....

that's enough out of you

juninho was making more money than any current juventus player btw

Compare the wage bill, not one player. ..

damn, so 6 or 7 years ago there was a player on lyon making more than any player on this current juventus team?
very interesting

Are you sure he has 2 legs only?