Re: Barcelona given 2 transfer periods transfer ban by FIFA

by BeautifulGame Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:32 am

rwo power wrote:@Cyberman

I just read that if Borussia M'gladbach agreed on a transfer fee with Barca, then the contract could be signed up to 6 month before its termination (which then would be June 2014).

The problem the player can't be registered with Barca until summer window opens . So even if he terminates the contract Barca can't register Ter Stiegen as their player before July 1.

If the ban applies Barca can't even get any players on loan as that will need registration as well.

Also these transfer bans apply only for buying players not for selling

by rwo power Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:06 am

Well, there was a guy on Sky atm who claimed that he spoke with some FIFA people and that the contract would be valid if there - so it seems to be possible that he signed and it could be registered after all.

by The_Badger Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:12 am

If RFEF are involved what are the chances of other errors being made with other Spanish clubs regarding illegal transfers?

by futbol Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:55 am

Silly Fifa. Barca were handed a transfer ban the minute Zubizarreta became sporting director. Laughing

by Blue Barrett Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:59 am

Lex wrote:And Kakuta flourished at Chelsea and went on to become the best whatever_position_he_plays_in in the world

Well at least we've won trophies since then eco smile

by Art Morte Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:01 am

I won't lie, I'm happy about this news. The rules are the rules and you have to be competent enough to understand them - and surely Barcelona's top management are and were. Which makes it even worse, sheer arrogance, knowingly disregarding the rules, because you think you're untouchable. Throw the shady money dealings from the Neymar transfer on top of this and you have to say Rosell & co. have been simply disgusting in their running of the club, hopefully Barcelona get a proper president and top management in place soon enough. Also, hopefully this ban won't be lifted after an appeal.

by cyberman Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:02 am

And la liga have been given 1 year to bring their registration process up to code
I love the Spanish press etc not understanding what's so wrong with this.. Shows their mentality
Marca.com actually saying it's identical to the Chelsea case and how there's thousands of these transfers every year.
Jesus wept

by Pip Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:02 am

"Research dealt with ten children enrolled in the club who participated in tournaments with the team for several seasons between 2009 and 2013", said FIFA in a statement. During this period Laporta and Sandro Rosell chaired the Catalan club. These actions of the Catalan club are "grave breaches" that caused the double penalty, and the obligation to "regularize the situation of children affected all players" within 90 days.

"The Disciplinary Commission is aware that, without proper controls, young players may be vulnerable to exploitation and abuse in a foreign country. For this reason, the governing bodies of sport and, in particular, FIFA, considered even more important protection of minors in football", he explains.

"Above all, the commission stressed that while in individual cases an international transfer can boost the career of a young player, it is likely that this practice harms the child . Based on this analysis, the committee decided that the interest of ensuring the proper and healthy development of a child in all aspects of his life prevails over the purely sporting interests", said FIFA.

5 years this has been going on! Surprised

by Blue Barrett Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:03 am

harhar11 wrote:
fatman123 wrote:What will happen with Ter Stegen? Is it possible that FIFA/UEFA have already approved that transfer and thus they'll let it slide? If not thats very good news for either Valdes or Pinto

Mes Que un Club

Indeed, Mes que un club! A club where the fans can make a president resign when he has done morally wrong things, unlike at Chelsea, who btw did the same thing

Neither Emenalo nor Gourlay nor Buck have ever been involved with tax evasion so I'm not sure what you're trying to say here brah Laughing

by The_Badger Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:07 am

Chelsea fans forget that they are only were they are due to the ill-gotten gains of their owner who had people murdered to make his fortune.

by farfan Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:15 am

harhar11 wrote:
fatman123 wrote:What will happen with Ter Stegen? Is it possible that FIFA/UEFA have already approved that transfer and thus they'll let it slide? If not thats very good news for either Valdes or Pinto

Mes Que un Club

Indeed, Mes que un club! A club where the fans can make a president resign when he has done morally wrong things, unlike at Chelsea, who btw did the same thing

you do realize that roman owns chelsea and doesn't have to answer to anyone , right ?

by Lex Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:15 am

The_Badger wrote:Chelsea fans forget that they are only were they are due to the ill-gotten gains of their owner who had people murdered to make his fortune.

by sportsczy Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:17 am

For the 100th time, Chelsea didn't do the same thing Laughing

They signed a pre-contract that wasn't legally binding. The player had neither moved to Chelsea yet or received any consideration. When Lens got wind of the pre-contract, they filed a complaint.

The reason the ruling got overturned in appeal was that, since the pre-contract had no legal effect, nothing wrong had been done yet from a rules standpoint. So the suspension was overturned. since nothing had been broken yet. It's like intending to rob a bank but not robbing it yet. You can't go to jail unless you actually rob the bank Laughing

Lens separtely filed a civil lawsuit against Chelsea. The monetary settlement was for that lawsuit and allowing Kakuta to go to Chelsea... nothing to do with UEFA/FIFA.

In this case, Barca has already signed 10 kids illegally to contract... not pre-contract... actual contracts. What leg does Barca have to stand on here? Someone please explain Laughing

by Blue Barrett Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:23 am

The_Badger wrote:Chelsea fans forget that they are only were they are due to the ill-gotten gains of their owner who had people murdered to make his fortune.

Ignoring how selectively inaccurate this is, what the bloody f**k does it have to do with this topic? rofl

Always bitter gtfoh!

by Mr Nick09 Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:24 am

i am surprised barcelona havent accused us of being responsible for this hmm

by The_Badger Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:25 am

#pray4sportsczy Proud

by The_Badger Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:26 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:i am surprised barcelona havent accused us of being responsible for this

Given how RFEF had no clue about this FIFA ruling, I wouldn't be surprised to see other clubs in Spain investigated.

by Blue Barrett Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:26 am

sportsczy wrote:For the 100th time, Chelsea didn't do the same thing They signed a pre-contract that wasn't legally binding. The player had neither moved to Chelsea yet or received any consideration. When Lens got wind of the pre-contract, they filed a complaint.

The reason the ruling got overturned in appeal was that, since the pre-contract had no legal effect, nothing wrong had been done yet from a rules standpoint. So the suspension was overturned. since nothing had been broken yet. It's like intending to rob a bank but not robbing it yet. You can't go to jail unless you actually rob the bank

Lens separtely filed a civil lawsuit against Chelsea. The monetary settlement was for that lawsuit and allowing Kakuta to go to Chelsea... nothing to do with UEFA/FIFA.

In this case, Barca has already signed 10 kids illegally to contract... not pre-contract... actual contracts. What leg does Barca have to stand on here? Someone please explain

If they were to end up being banned, does the ban take immediate effect? As in, starting this summer?

If it starts next winter(like Ballague is saying), we could see Barca splashing a lot this summer.

by RED Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:27 am

They are royally screwed! Embarassed

by The_Badger Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:30 am

Blue Barrett wrote:
The_Badger wrote:Chelsea fans forget that they are only were they are due to the ill-gotten gains of their owner who had people murdered to make his fortune.
Ignoring how selectively inaccurate this is, what the bloody f**k does it have to do with this topic?

Always bitter gtfoh!

What's inaccurate?

I suggest you do some research into how your owner acquired his wealth. Maybe read/watch some of John Sweeney's investigations into him for example.

It's fine Chelsea "fans" lording it over some club being bent, but people would consider signing under 18s to be less a crime than what Abramovich has been involved in.

People in glass houses...

by El Gunner Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:32 am

So Messi is illegal at Barca hmm

by The_Badger Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:33 am

El Gunner wrote:So Messi is illegal at Barca

No, this happened between 2009 and 2013.

by Pedram Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:39 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:i am surprised barcelona havent accused us of being responsible for this

Won't be surprised if their newspapers come up with something like this tomorrow. hmm

"This is all part of a big conspiracy created by the Evil Real Madrid to slander Barcelona."

by farfan Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:41 am

puyol and valdes to stay ?

by El Gunner Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:41 am

The_Badger wrote:
El Gunner wrote:So Messi is illegal at Barca

No, this happened between 2009 and 2013.

Oh lol okay.
Just read the title and OP, must've missed the time frame.

by Blue Barrett Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:41 am

The_Badger wrote:
Blue Barrett wrote:
The_Badger wrote:Chelsea fans forget that they are only were they are due to the ill-gotten gains of their owner who had people murdered to make his fortune.
Ignoring how selectively inaccurate this is, what the bloody f**k does it have to do with this topic?

Always bitter gtfoh!

What's inaccurate?

I suggest you do some research into how your owner acquired his wealth. Maybe read/watch some of John Sweeney's investigations into him for example.

It's fine Chelsea "fans" lording it over some club being bent, but people would consider signing under 18s to be less a crime than what Abramovich has been involved in.

People in glass houses...

Shut up.

I'm 100% aware of how he got his riches and while its very dodgy, I'm also aware that he didn't kill anyone to get them. No surprise you've somehow(once again) turned this into an anti-Chelsea campaign. Its almost as if you're obsessed. Slow down, will you?

I'm not even sure how or why that even relates to THIS topic in any way, shape or form. Grabbing apples(actually, pineapples) and continually throwing it in a basket of oranges.

Its already derailing this thread(something you seem to be really good at) so I won't indulge in this anymore.

On with the topic.

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