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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:54 pm

They arent as solid defensively these days. Godin has regressed and Miranda can't be handheld anymore. Enjoyed Celta and Valencia tearing them a new one. Also soon Mandzukic will be replaced. He hasn't been too good since he signed for them

When teams do the bare basics of just shutting the wings Atleti will be useless. They can't play any other way

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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:05 pm

Don forget about Villarreal. Vietto skilling Godin was delicious
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Post by sportsczy Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:18 pm

Griezmann is actually pretty good in the air... have seen him score headers pretty regularly over the years. Gets up really high and has a natural instinct for finding open areas. Brave too as he doesn't mind battling it out in there if necessary.

Atleti are better balanced this year imo. Griezmann, Mandzukic, Jimenez and now Torres more than make up for losing Costa. They're on pace to concede 31 goals right now as opposed to 26 last season... so they're not too far off on defense either. To me, the keeper is not as good as Courtois more than anything else.

Takes a while to get the new guys comfortable and now they're rolling. Last year's team didn't have any new guys coming in that i recall.

Very dangerous team. I think their best play is ahead of them.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:26 pm

Jimenez barely plays and will probably get loaned out either now or in the summer, wouldn't be surprised if Godin has scored as many as Mandzukic, Torres Laughing . Simeone doesn't trust Griezmann against the big teams. He is their biggest goal threat though

Atletico's weapon has always been their ability to shut out teams and prevent them from getting chances. Its complete opposite this season. In fact they have Moya to thank for alot of their wins
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Post by sportsczy Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:35 pm

Mostly away hala and that's changed now... Griezmann wasn't used to defending that hard and needed to learn Atleti's system. Simeone likes to get more defensive against the better sides away. Also wants the extra size on set pieces.

I think that's changed now. Griezmann is making it impossible to keep him on the bench at any time.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Jan 03, 2015 8:13 pm

I agree. Griezmann is playing unreal right now but Simeone is Simeone and will have no problems bencuing him for that scrub Garcia so they can play hoofball to him all game
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Post by RealGunner Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:18 pm

Ronaldo penalty 1-0
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:31 pm

the more I watch Real Madrid's league games, the more I can see where harmonica is coming from tbh
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:34 pm

Interpol needs to step in and investigate that refereeing imo
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Post by futbol Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:44 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:the more I watch Real Madrid's league games, the more I can see where harmonica is coming from tbh


That's nothing, you haven't followed the 11/12 season where strikers were getting called offside in their own half against Madrid. Laughing

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Post by farfan Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:51 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:Interpol needs to step in and investigate that refereeing imo



maybe they need to investigate this butthurt you have over madrid while they're at it .

how was that not a penalty ? you guys want referees to stop calling penalties just because you think madrid is getting too much of them ? Laughing
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Post by Freeza Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:52 pm

It was a close call, the other one where Ronaldo missed the chance after was a 100% penalty, and no way Harmonica wouldn't bring it up, if it happened to Barca.
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Post by Valkyrja Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:53 pm

Another Penaldo :bow:

Jiopsi post coming Laughing
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:55 pm

I'm not talking about the penalty, I hadn't tuned in then. I'm talking about the fact every successful challenge on Ronaldo or Marcelo is by default a free kick and a yellow.
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Post by Freeza Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:56 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:I'm not talking about the penalty, I hadn't tuned in then. I'm talking about the fact every successful challenge on Ronaldo or Marcelo is by default a free kick and a yellow.


Only one tackle on either was a yellow. The one on Ronaldo was legit enough.

Ramos - Handball
Isco - Multiple free kicks
Gaya - entering pitch too early
Mustafi ā€“Ā sliding tackle on Ronaldo
Parejo - obstructing and tripping the keeper
Alcacer - can't really remember that one
Perez - a lot of complaining


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Post by farfan Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:57 pm

FuƟball wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:the more I watch Real Madrid's league games, the more I can see where harmonica is coming from tbh


That's nothing, you haven't followed the 11/12 season where strikers were getting called offside in their own half against Madrid. Laughing


oh yes ! the myhtical 11/12 season that exists only in the minds of barcelona fan Laughing lol at that lame attempt to divert people's memory from barƧa's numerous refereeing scandals and how they won 3 champions leagues in those circumstances .
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Post by farfan Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:59 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:I'm not talking about the penalty, I hadn't tuned in then. I'm talking about the fact every successful challenge on Ronaldo or Marcelo is by default a free kick and a yellow.


ramos , the more volatile piece of madrid's defense , got a yellow for absolutely nothing .
the guy who almost decapitated bale before the penalty got nothing .
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:00 pm

the yellow tackle on Ronaldo was clearly the ball, the one on Marcelo was a dive and then Perez got the yellow for complaining.
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Post by farfan Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:03 pm

marcelo didn't dive ..

the third replay clearly shows it .
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Post by Freeza Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:03 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:the yellow tackle on Ronaldo was clearly the ball, the one on Marcelo was a dive and then Perez got the yellow for complaining.


It's like this every single game for everyone in La Liga. You can't complain to referess when you aren't the captain or else you'll get booked. Valencia's own fault, they got some iffy yellows, but should have gotten some yellow on challenges earlier. You win some you lose some.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:04 pm

sure, if you complain like that you can't be surprised about a yellow. On the other hand I can't fathom how frustrating it must be to play against serial divers getting their way every time.
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Post by Valkyrja Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:07 pm

Bayern fans complaining about diving while they have Muller in their team Laughing
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:12 pm

I have to say though that "Interpol needs to investigate that butthurt of yours" was a pretty fantastic reply Laughing
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Post by RealGunner Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:53 pm

Valencia 2-1 Madrid. Great result
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Post by Casciavit Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:57 pm

Orban had a great game.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:02 pm

Orban shoulr have been red carded in the first half. Otamendi was great though and Gaya when he came on
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