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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:51 pm

Campagnaro was beasting that season, he's not the player that he would be at Inter.

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Post by rincon Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:52 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:I love how Napoli players are suddenly good when Higuain is doing well. The team worse with Cavani rofl what am i hearing

And did someone just say Insigne gives service Laughing i am done.


This squad is sure as hell better than Mazzarri's. Watch the games then. Insigne can be selfish but he also provides. He leads Serie A in assists. The fact that he takes that many chances and STILL provides tells you how much Napoli creates.
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Post by rincon Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:03 pm

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rincon wrote:No chance about the backline. Koulibaly, Ghoulam and Hysaj are very very good.
Come on man, who rated them before this season?


No one thought they were as good, but they broke through. Seeing them play you see they are good and surely better than Aronica/Britos/Dossena. Only Zuniga and Maggio were up to par.

Since a loooong time Napoli has been trying to sort out their backline. This season they'll instead be trying to hold on to them.
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Post by Kaladin Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:05 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:I love how Napoli players are suddenly good when Higuain is doing well. The team worse with Cavani rofl what am i hearing

And did someone just say Insigne gives service Laughing i am done.


Their team was absolute crap back then lmao, we dominated them with a midfield of Muntari-Ambrosini-Boateng, Bojan and Robinho were gliding thru their defense and setting up ES with goals.

You don't have to take into consideration the quality of the team as a barometer, look at the quality of the opponents. Cavani faced Nesta, TS, Samuel, Lucio, Barzagli, Benatia, prime Surag Zapata etc

What notable defenses are there now besides Juve? You could make a case for Inter, but they have crap fullbacks. Maybe Benatia's Roma? (Wasn't that when he had 14 goals season end?)
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Post by rincon Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:23 pm

back to Higuain, the next matches are:

@Palermo
Genoa
@Udinese
Verona

He could get back on a hot streak. Except for Genoa those should be pretty easy.
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Post by farfan Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:42 pm

I love how another layer has been added to the Higuain vs Cavani discussion Laughing Few months ago only the number of goals was brought up . Now that Higuain is looking sure to smash Cavani's best season , we're hearing about how Higuain's teammates are superior and how his opponents are inferior to Cavani's era . hmm

Higuain is better, just get over it people .
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Post by Kaladin Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:09 pm

What layer? This has been discussed months ago as well Laughing
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Post by rincon Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:28 pm

farfan wrote:I love how another layer  has been added  to the Higuain vs Cavani discussion   Laughing   Few months ago  only the number of goals was brought up   . Now that Higuain is looking  sure to smash Cavani's best season ,  we're hearing  about how Higuain's teammates are superior  and  how his opponents are inferior to Cavani's era . hmm

Higuain is better, just get over it people .

Rolling Eyes  Im not sure which one is better, how is it so clear?

and how is he sure to smash Cavani's best season?? unless he goes on a monster run it'll be tight if he even beats it.

Cavani 12/13 38 goals (29 serie a)
Higuain 15/16 28 goals (26 serie a) 9 games to go.

They played in the same competitions to the same stages. He sure doesn't look like smashing anything. Only in the league can he outscore him. Cavani put out numbers like that 3 years in a row for napoli.
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Post by farfan Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:56 pm

Higuain is  simply more complete if we just take an objective look at each players attributes  imo  .

After 3 years of watching Cavani's dogshit controls , shitty passes ,clumsy runs ,  and the obligatory weekly  missed sitter and one on one at PSG , i just don't see what Cavani does better .
Goals are important  , but they shouldn't be used as the sole metric to judge a striker . i mean Makaay outscored Ronaldo the year Madrid won La Liga , doesn't mean he was the better player . hmm
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:18 am

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rincon wrote:No chance about the backline. Koulibaly, Ghoulam and Hysaj are very very good.
Come on man, who rated them before this season?


No one thought they were as good, but they broke through. Seeing them play you see they are good and surely better than Aronica/Britos/Dossena. Only Zuniga and Maggio were up to par.

Since a loooong time Napoli has been trying to sort out their backline. This season they'll instead be trying to hold on to them.


Yes but how much of that is down to them all breaking through at the same time or down to Sarri being great at creating disciplined defenses with good cover form the midfield? I would use Leicester as a parallel here, they have conceded far less goals than last season, but I'm not about to claim that Huth and Simpson are very good players.
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Post by Valkyrja Tue Mar 08, 2016 6:32 am

It feels weird to have someone vs Higuain, and that guy not being Karim :sad:
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Post by FennecFox7 Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:15 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
rincon wrote:No chance about the backline. Koulibaly, Ghoulam and Hysaj are very very good.
Come on man, who rated them before this season?


Really now, Ghoulam has always been excellent for Napoli. Much better defender then your boy Alba at barca.

And Koulibaly is very solid for the most part.
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:18 am

Once Higuain eventually smashes Cavani's goalrecord i never want to hear that overrated fluke in the same breath as Pipita again.
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Post by rincon Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:10 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
rincon wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote: Come on man, who rated them before this season?


No one thought they were as good, but they broke through. Seeing them play you see they are good and surely better than Aronica/Britos/Dossena. Only Zuniga and Maggio were up to par.

Since a loooong time Napoli has been trying to sort out their backline. This season they'll instead be trying to hold on to them.


Yes but how much of that is down to them all breaking through at the same time or down to Sarri being great at creating disciplined defenses with good cover form the midfield? I would use Leicester as a parallel here, they have conceded far less goals than last season, but I'm not about to claim that Huth and Simpson are very good players.


Yep we don't know that. I don't watch Leicester that often, but Rainieri's 4-4-2 seems a lot safer than Sarri's 4-3-3. A big part of it is definitely due to Sarri's work and his Empoli defended similarly, but it can't be all. Valdifiori came with him to Napoli and the gap in quality with Jorginho is clear. Chiriches also looks like a scrub and Maggio has no place. Maybe you are right and they drop off later, but for now the players look good. Koulibaly will attract a lot of attention and bigger clubs than napoli could use Hysaj and Ghoulam as fullbacks.
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Post by RealGunner Sat May 14, 2016 9:27 pm

Just broke a 60 year old record


Elite striker
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Post by futbol Sat May 14, 2016 9:31 pm

The record was set in Serie A. Higuain is playing in Serie zZZZzZ. Wrong league, m7+1

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Post by Robespierre Sat May 14, 2016 9:34 pm

So ppl STILL thinks Cavani in Napoli was better than him ? : rofl
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Post by Lucifer Sat May 14, 2016 9:36 pm

Who said that? Laughing

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Post by RealGunner Sat May 14, 2016 9:37 pm

Robespierre wrote:So ppl STILL thinks Cavani in Napoli was better than him ? : rofl


Laughing

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Post by Harmonica Sat May 14, 2016 9:38 pm

What's the record? Most shrugs a minute?
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Post by Valkyrja Sat May 14, 2016 9:48 pm

Come home you POS :wub:
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Post by Harmonica Sat May 14, 2016 9:53 pm

Wait he actually outscored Cronaldo when he doesn't have to service him. rofl
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Post by urbaNRoots Sat May 14, 2016 10:02 pm

Feels good to be right for once Proud
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Post by farfan Sat May 14, 2016 10:43 pm

Lucifer wrote:Who said that? Laughing


Cavani vs Higuain was a heated debate for months here . Laughing

Let's hope it's settled once and for all .
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Post by Gil Sat May 14, 2016 10:49 pm

Best Argentine striker since Batistuta. Horribly misused by them.

Best finisher in football by far.
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Post by farfan Sat May 14, 2016 10:57 pm

Also remember few years ago some Serie A fans were like " Ronaldo and Messi would never be able to score 35+ goals in Serie A because it's too tactical etc.. "

Just lol . Proud
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